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Same as in the [[Solomon's Key (NES)/normal ending|normal ending]] run (the fireball inventory doesn't necessary match with previous/next rooms).<br />
 
Same as in the [[Solomon's Key (NES)/normal ending|normal ending]] run (the fireball inventory doesn't necessary match with previous/next rooms).<br />
  

Revision as of 15:33, 12 February 2014

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Category description

This category aims to get the best ending by collecting the pages of space and time and finally saving the princess (or "prinsess", as it's spelled in this game). It's possible to both use some golden wings (in rooms 23, 31 and 39) or death abuse (room 32 and 36 - these rooms are skipped when warping), while still getting the best ending. The videos below show the route without warps and without death abuse.

The terminology from the game mechanics page is used below.

Level-by-level description

Room 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCeAIyJtLhc
Rooms 1-6 are the same as in the normal ending run.

Room 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTQHB2k_zuU

Room 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RznY8Cdog8E

Room 4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJYm0McO474

Room 5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOmQZ77BsVo

Room 6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt0QmJM-d2w

Room 7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Mgl1yzpApQ
Just like in the normal ending run, the room solution looks slow. The enemies quite efficiently prevent faster solutions (without resorting to very tight maneuvers such as shown in the tas). It can also be sped up by one sec with the use of a fireball, but that doesn't seem to work well with the fireball management in the following rooms.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVbJ2vY_xZo
2.5 seconds faster than the above solution. Of course it comes with a cost of added risk...

Room 8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhktlUhFyZs

Room 9

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhUsukT_JkA

Room 10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0Gzirk8uHs
The jump to the exit must be performed so to allow for the next room to start with a buffered jump (release up before hitting the exit).

Room 11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td8Z5DL4mZw

Room 12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4Q9pZwz44Y

Room 13

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ec3eBSlRQw
Just like in the normal ending run, the ghost is dispatched to reduce slowdown (and also to avoid dealing with the ghost later on).

Room 14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSoMhKld3v4
Same as in the normal ending run (the fireball inventory doesn't necessary match with previous/next rooms).

Room 15

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID09KdwsHuk
The fireball saves a few tenths of a second, but the fireball needs to be gone before room 17. There are no better alternatives found for it than here. A possibility is to avoid picking up the fireball in room 8, which is slightly faster, but also a bit difficult.

Room 16

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1ysfKdXeFw

Room 17

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9qkKu7JI5Q

Room 18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgVErhSTpZ0

Room 19

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RQF7KI6wiI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCgBt8pNiZ0
This is an alternative with the aim to avoid the hard jump to the super fireball in the first solution. It's one second slower though.

Room 20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LLouZVPeoQ
There are a few alternatives in this room. Should the blocks be created already during the initial drop? How about start out by a buffered jump to the key when the room starts? Is it faster to approach the constellation sign from the left or the right side? More analysis of this room could be beneficial.

Hidden room (page of time)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buLZATLjyng

Room 21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgtQ5mR8DdE
Very similar to the normal ending run.

Room 22

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCgXzA2jTs8
Same as in the normal ending run (the fireball inventory doesn't necessary match with previous/next rooms).

Room 23

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3-EAChIoEQ
Very similar to the normal ending run.

Room 24

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z57AEUhQZcM

Room 25

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvcYj1MPTLk
The last jump to below the exit is a bit precise, but can be done consistently.

Room 26

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RllHmHX2SI

Room 27

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjSWWc1nMmc
The "safe" solution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZvqtLl6hWw
This variant is a good deal riskier than the solution above, but is also almost a second faster.

Room 28

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a1EwiDDSdo

Straight-forward and easy solution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stL8_SsXaUs
Suggested solution by using zigzag technique. Roughly 1.5 seconds faster than above.

Room 29

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpAdQOeKHnQ
Just like in the normal ending category, the gargoyle can start out by going either left or right and again right is the best (shown here).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxiuHIQeMDs
This is how the room plays out if the gargoyle starts walking to the left. This solution is around one second slower. From experience, it luckily seems like the gargoyle most of the time starts out to the right.

Room 30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUnErkf0qQw
Same as in the normal ending run (the fireball inventory doesn't necessary match with previous/next rooms).

Room 31

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHJ30abV2lk
Just like the comment for the normal ending run, this room could be faster with more use of advanced techniques (zigzag climbing etc). It's fairly late in the game and risk increases dramatically though. The solution shown here is not trivial, but still relatively safe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B68-pNOcVs
Reference solution with zigzag jumping. It's 4.5 seconds faster than above (1.5 enemy cycles faster). There might be even better solutions in real-time, but it hasn't been thoroughly tested. The difficulty of this solution is already quite high (it took more than 60 real-time attempts to make this video, including a save state when picking up the key).

Room 32

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EqSdT60NM8
This is one of the rooms that can benefit from death abuse (drop down to the key and into the blue flame, jump to the exit when restarting the room).

Room 33

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqHO9wnUPZQ
This room solution is quite carefully designed to avoid trouble from the birds and sparkballs. The timing to run/drop past the last bird is tight, but should be consistent.

Room 34

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SByC9s9KY6I
Combining the increased countdown speed from the grey jar and the yellow hourglass allows for a low timer when exiting the room (and thus saving time during point countdown during the following room transition).

Room 35

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CqihU-weO8
Problematic room. Dana needs to wait a few times near the top. The timing of the gargoyles' fireballs and the spawning of the demon heads don't allow for much time to be saved without making everything a whole cycle faster. It's also possible to come up with faster solutions involving the use of a super fireball (to be replaced in room 39). But there is no obvious solution as of yet that can squeeze out more time without adding lots of more risk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdtKOTj8_ks
For reference, this solution is around 6 seconds faster than above by using advanced techniques (zigzag climbing and a difficult drop after the key). Possible in real-time, but it adds a considerable risk this late in a run.

Room 36

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8auPTQIEmSQ
Death abuse would save a little bit of time (right after picking up the key).

Room 37

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wokuhxgur1c
Same as in the normal ending run (the fireball inventory doesn't necessary match with previous/next rooms).

Room 38

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VO7LK3V5PE
Same as in the normal ending run (the fireball inventory doesn't necessary match with previous/next rooms).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnJREXSFXyw
This solution makes the drop in the middle easier. It's one second slower than the first solution though.

Room 39

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voBaxaVAZ9g
The climbing becomes faster by the use of a fireball (as shown in the normal ending run). Unfortunately, there are no available normal fireballs to pick up along the route. The only solution would be to use a super fireball and then pick up the one above to the right of the exit. However, the time of picking it up would be almost the same as the time saved by the faster climbing. A little time would be saved, but the super fireball near the exit is awkwardly placed and there is always risks involved with relying on collecting it.

Room 40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCmFqHwM_CA

Room 41

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQzQ-YtZCm0
Just like in room 10, make sure to set up for a buffered jump at the start of room 42.

Room 42

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3aNj6ewqQ0

Room 43

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fHBNLo2Wvo

Room 44

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp9ovThMWPs

Hidden room (page of space)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBBOYBGInYI
The bottom grey block only becomes breakable once Dana used block magic on the exit.

Room 45

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RUgpqaZ4tM
Same as in the normal ending run.

Room 46

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLG9UniRlds
Very similar to the normal ending run.
There is a trick for the positioning on the block below the exit. If Dana's nose is covered by the white border surrounding the exit (or even more to the left), the position is correct for making the Solomon's seal appear like shown here. If Dana's nose is visible to the right, create a block to the right of the exit, jump to it, turn around and make the seal appear. It wastes around two seconds though.

Room 47

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJHcjjnt6FI

Room 48

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2FMdxWLglQ
Same as in the normal ending run.

Prinsess' room

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaonYBBFjJc
The grey block on the left side that allows Dana to enter the outer heart becomes breakable by using the block magic on the right red flame. It's not strictly necessary to break two grey blocks during the drop on the left side, but it makes it slightly easier to not drop the whole way down.

Solomon's room

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcAHLq2U1Ew
Same as in the normal ending run. (to be confirmed that the rng doesn't change in the best ending run)

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