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Q: Why go for Scoopers and then Mega and not the other way around?<br /> | Q: Why go for Scoopers and then Mega and not the other way around?<br /> | ||
A: This has been tested. Mega can be bought after race 17 and Scoopers after race 21. It was around five seconds slower overall though.<br /><br /> | A: This has been tested. Mega can be bought after race 17 and Scoopers after race 21. It was around five seconds slower overall though.<br /><br /> | ||
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+ | Q: And how about swapping Skinny tires and the red motor?<br /> | ||
+ | A: The only difference would be in race 2, which would be with Skinny tires instead of the red motor. This has been tested to be around 2.5-3 sec slower though (which is, by the way, in good correspondence with the [[R.C._Pro-Am_II/Game_Mechanics#Test_of_upgrade_combinations|test]] that was made for one lap of race 6).<br /><br /> | ||
Q: Are any of the other purchases worth it?<br /> | Q: Are any of the other purchases worth it?<br /> |
Revision as of 08:15, 24 March 2018
Contents
- 1 Money route and upgrades
- 2 Races
- 2.1 Race 01
- 2.2 Race 02
- 2.3 Race 03
- 2.4 Race 04
- 2.5 Race 05
- 2.6 Race 06
- 2.7 Race 07
- 2.8 Race 08
- 2.9 Race 09
- 2.10 Race 10
- 2.11 Race 11
- 2.12 Race 12
- 2.13 Race 13
- 2.14 Race 14
- 2.15 Race 15
- 2.16 Race 16
- 2.17 Race 17
- 2.18 Race 18
- 2.19 Race 19
- 2.20 Race 20
- 2.21 Race 21
- 2.22 Race 22
- 2.23 Race 23
- 2.24 Race 24
- 2.25 Race 25
- 2.26 Race 26
- 2.27 Race 27
- 2.28 Race 28
- 2.29 Race 29
- 2.30 Race 30
- 2.31 Race 31
- 2.32 Race 32
- 2.33 Race 33
- 2.34 Race 34
- 2.35 Race 35
- 2.36 Race 36
Money route and upgrades
Cash flow
The following spreadsheet shows the cash flow in the videos in this guide (the total might not always correspond to what's shown at the end of the videos though, because of videos having been replaced). There are too many things factoring in how much you're able to collect, so this is just an example of how much money is possible to get. There is room for getting even more money, both through better RNG, but also by going out of the way to collect more money items. However, these routes already take into account some favorable RNG, so it's not going to be easy to be on a better pace in an actual attempt (not taking into account the start boost bonuess). Since the last purchase is Mega after race 21, the money after that point is irrelevant.
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- You need at least 3 start boosts in the first four races to afford the Silver motor.
- You need at least 5 start boosts in the first eight races to afford the Scoopers tires.
- In practice, you probably need a few more start boosts between race 9 and 21 in order to afford the Mega motor.
- There is a kind of back-up strat in race 18, where you can collect four dollar markers (worth 1000$ in total) instead of taking a zipper. Having the Mega motor in race 22 doesn't save that much time though. Around 1.5 secs can be expected. So slightly more than what's lost by skipping the zipper.
Considerations about the upgrades
Q: Is the red motor really needed when it's only used for 3 races?
A: Yes, it saves roughly 10 seconds. The 2k saved by not buying red would not allow any of the other upgrades to be bought earlier (except for Skinny, but red saves more time than Skinny anyways). The red motor makes the money management much more tight though.
Q: The black motor is only 2k more expensive than red, couldn't it have been used?
A: Correct, the black motor is pretty performant in relation to its price. However, it would delay buying everything else (Skinny, Silver, Scoopers and Mega) by one race and it's not possible to buy after race 1, so race 2 would have to be done without any upgrades. The only race that would see a benefit is race 4, but that's not enough to outweigh delaying all the other purchases.
Q: What about the other motors then?
A: Gold and Hyper only give marginal advantages over Silver, while greatly delaying the Mega purchase.
Q: What about the other tires?
A: There are no simple parameters known for the tires and the test that was done showed that the difference between the tires isn't very big. However, the Scoopers are relatively cheap (15k), so even though they might not give a huge advantage, they don't delay Mega more than two or three races compared with Dynafit or Nooblies, respectively. It's assumed that this delay is offset by having Scoopers throughout the game instead of driving with inferior tires for around 15 races. This hasn't been fully investigated though.
Q: Why go for Scoopers and then Mega and not the other way around?
A: This has been tested. Mega can be bought after race 17 and Scoopers after race 21. It was around five seconds slower overall though.
Q: And how about swapping Skinny tires and the red motor?
A: The only difference would be in race 2, which would be with Skinny tires instead of the red motor. This has been tested to be around 2.5-3 sec slower though (which is, by the way, in good correspondence with the test that was made for one lap of race 6).
Q: Are any of the other purchases worth it?
A: The guns are somewhat useful in a casual playthrough, but don't save any time at all and are therefore essentially useless in a speedrun. One of the guns has an odd quirk that could be worth mentioning. The "buckshot" makes the other cars drop dollar bags. It's not efficient enough to really be of any use though.
Of the other items, nitros could be worth considering. You get three nitros, but they are 5 menu steps away in the shop, so it's difficult to see how that would make it worthwhile other than if this gives additional advantages during the race. One possibility could for example be in race 35, but even with these additional nitros, you're not going to be first to the nitros on the track without also getting a start boost. So the answer seems to be 'no, other than by a costly trade of time for safety'.
Races
Race 01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2djgbhaAnk
If the blue car is second from the right on the starting line, it will always (?) collect the middle dollar item. Otherwise, that dollar item almost always be free to collect during the second lap. The dollar sign next to the zippers is awkwardly located and difficult to include in the route without incurring time losses.
Race 02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWnoHK7Ms9U
The last dollar bag right before the finish line is random. There is maybe a 50% chance it's there.
Race 03
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFk4S7llZxU
On the right, you should always first collect the innermost star. Perhaps every third time or so, the middle star will then be there for the second lap. There is also a very small chance that the upper dollar item before the finish line won't be collected during the first lap. So it's best to collect the lower one on the first lap and then see it as a bonus if the dollar item can be collected during lap 2.
Race 04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmKJDEj4tEQ
If you have 4800 going into this race, you're on pace assuming you can get a start boost (otherwise 5300). It's possible to collect more money than what's shown here, but it either relies on luck or by passing right between two of the stars at the U-turn and collect them both.
Race 05
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2wkh99MKis
Race 06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q19gdMrWuxI
It's possible to get enough letters to upgrade the car already after this race, but that's really exceptional. The letter below the zippers on the right side of the track seems to most often be O, but can occasionally be I. The other cars will always go for it, so you need to decide on the first lap if it's worth skipping a zipper for.
Race 07
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox5QnwmDHBc
The letter here is fairly often one of the lower ones (M or I), so it's worth making the detour for it since you'll anyways can catch the zippers.
Race 08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYg650yv7fQ
For the sake of completeness, the bonus stage "Tug-O-Truck":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7VwIgWqkEc
You have to tap A and B consecutively to win. There are certainly many ways to do this, but one method that works fairly well is the following:
- Hold the left side of the controller between legs.
- One of the left fingers right above B.
- One of the right fingers above A.
If you now mash A, the controller will be pushed back a little and then bounce back, so your left finger will push B without even moving. This way you can create a sort of mashing of A and B alternately.
Race 09
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOumvumsnkk
More realistically, this is the race where you'll get your first upgraded car.
Race 10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBWnLD19TvU
There are so many nitros here that you can won't be able to use them all, so just activate a new one as soon as you can.
Race 11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pW_m3r-4A4
Race 12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTJ__n5SVow
Race 13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDMFhoq8UVU
Race 14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzjBmXt9FNs
There is an excellent chance here to upgrade the car for a second time, but you're likely to struggle with an O or an A.
Race 15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkSF0KYorgE
If you didn't already upgrade, here is another good chance for getting the second upgrade. If you still haven't gotten the right letters, it might get complicated, since the the earlier letters, which are the ones you're likely to miss, seem to not be as frequent later in the game (as opposed to how the later letters are less frequent at the beginning of the game).
Race 16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX7gsnsiz3g
For the sake of completeness, this is a video of the bonus game drag race. Just like the "Tug-O-Truck", push A and B alternately. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DS5gCWifTs
Race 17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpyHPTCRrrk
It happens fairly frequently that you're shot right at the beginning without any chance to dodge (other than hugging the wall and avoiding the zippers).
By using a nitro in the log section, you can jump over it completely, but it will create so much lag that it's slower than the nitro use shown here.
Race 18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9XJd8eEa_U
The row of dollar items can be collected by skipping the zipper one of the laps. This might mean the difference between affording the Mega after race 21 or not, so could be worth consideration if your money count is right at the limit.
Race 19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QECGyQEWBWA
Race 20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSRe13vDjjg
Race 21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exTj9p9BYTg
It's pretty tricky to collect both of the first nitros and at the same time get the second zipper. If you don't collect one (or both) of the nitros, you'll have to rely on luck by hoping one of the other cars don't collect nitros on the second stretch. It's a big time loss if you don't have nitros for the two big log sections.
The dollar item on the left side is often picked up by the other cars and should therefore not be relied too heavily upon when trying to get above 50k.
It's worth noting that if you don't use the third nitro at the jump on top of the track, you'll collect another dollar sign (but slowing down also increases the risk of one of the other cars overtaking you).
Race 22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2Fw3VaNbPY
If you don't have Mega, you need to use a nitro when going over the jumps or you'll crash into the bombs. This creates a lot of lag though, especially on the first lap, so it should be avoided if you have Mega.
The section with the two log parts is very laggy and using a nitro makes it worse. If you're alone in this section on the second lap, you should use a nitro here though.
Race 23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAWduBprK-Y
The nitro can be used in several different places, but it doesn't make a big time difference where. The stretch with the plane becomes easier with a nitro though, so it's a good candidate.
Race 24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdHWVKOR24o
For the sake of completion, another "Tug-O-Truck". It seems to be pretty much identical to the first one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzVQ6gKDbv4
Race 25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxMS5SYPgN0
Identical with race 1
Race 26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6XjOb8CeZQ
Identical with race 10. This time around, it's however not sure you'll be able to get as many nitros. The race can also be expected to be tighter, which means more objects on screen and more lag. Therefore consider avoiding nitros from the top of the track (the stretch with colored nitros) until the right side, especially on the first lap. For the second lap, most of the items should hopefully be collected, so nitros should again be possible to use without creating too much lag.
Race 27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I68cqUYZno
Identical with race 19
Race 28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrmZ11r9GUQ
Identical with race 2
Race 29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuLWp7_h37k
Identical with race 11
Race 30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5PuD_uXohs
Identical with race 20
For the sake of completion, the second drag race. The other cars, especially the yellow one, is faster here. It's really of no importance though since there is no interaction between the cars and money is no issue at this point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUgxsjPhCIs
Race 31
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSriFMRFsUM
Identical with race 3
Race 32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OeGyA76nNo
Identical with race 12.
This is one of the tougher races though. If you see a chance to sneak ahead one of the first cars on the first lap, you can try to use the nitro and grab the bombs before the finish line. Just keep dropping bombs and the car behind should run into them.
Another strat is to keep the nitro until the end and try to squeeze past a car on the final stretch.
Race 33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih4a0a-Jbvk
Identical with race 21
Race 34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U23tCW4suB8
Identical with race 4.
The green car will always try to collect the roll-cage and likely become a bother from that point and require you to slow down from time to time in order to keep a distance. If you're fast enough, you can beat get to the roll-cage first though, which is probably worth it since you can then proceed at full speed.
Race 35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r9LrnnEVeo
Identical with race 13
One of the more difficult races. If you're good/lucky enough to get a start boost, you can try to collect the nitro in the middle of the first stretch, which then helps you to get two nitros on the right hand side of the track. If that's not the case, there should still be one nitro for you on the right hand side if you hug the left wall (seen from someone watching the screen). By using the nitro at the zippers, you can usually sneak past one of the cars before the finish line if you haven't made any big mistakes until then.
Race 36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAfTh58bxu8
Identical with race 22