Super Mario Galaxy 2/Game Mechanics - Revision history

Nemi: /* Luigi's Advantages */

2019-12-26T01:40:00Z

‎Luigi's Advantages

Nemi at 01:26, 10 April 2017

2017-04-10T01:26:08Z

Nemi at 01:06, 10 April 2017

2017-04-10T01:06:17Z

Nemi at 00:56, 10 April 2017

2017-04-10T00:56:34Z

Nemi: Added Tilt and Mega Sideflip

2017-04-10T00:55:04Z

Added Tilt and Mega Sideflip

Nemi at 05:53, 11 February 2016

2016-02-11T05:53:48Z

Nemi at 09:46, 16 March 2014

2014-03-16T09:46:57Z

Nemi: Added Yoshifan's TAS notes; also added a section for Mario/Luigi differences

2014-03-16T08:55:22Z

Added Yoshifan's TAS notes; also added a section for Mario/Luigi differences

Nemi: Added description of sideways wall-jumping

2014-03-13T06:37:30Z

Added description of sideways wall-jumping

Yoshifan: /* Sideways infinite flutter */ Added a point about doing a spin before fluttering.

2013-12-19T06:25:47Z

‎Sideways infinite flutter: Added a point about doing a spin before fluttering.

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 ==Luigi's Advantages==
 * Luigi runs about 15% faster than Mario. In turn, Yoshi runs about 20% faster than Luigi.
 * Luigi can jump slightly higher than Mario, but the difference depends on the type of jump (details <span class="plainlinks">[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Se76mcQjJtO-A5aCscW1z2SmeheoMkDxnoeNxnxZQNc/edit?pli=1 here]</span>):
 ** Single/double-jumps, backflips/sideflips: 12% higher
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 ** Long-jumps: 5%
 ** Wall-jumps: 9.6%
 ==Luigi's Disadvantages==

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	* '''Mega sideflip:''' In some places, a sideflip can get much more height than usual. Start a sideflip while facing directly away or towards the camera, and then immediately hold left or right once the jump starts. This glitch also works in SMG1. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsh07wMnjRk Video]		* '''Mega sideflip:''' In some places, a sideflip can get much more height than usual. Start a sideflip while facing directly away or towards the camera, and then immediately hold left or right once the jump starts. This glitch also works in SMG1. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsh07wMnjRk Video]
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	==Momentum Boosting==		==Momentum Boosting==

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 * '''Super Short Long Jump''' This trick's cause is unknown. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udT9uRxChEA Video]
-* '''Tilt:''' The tilt of Mario and Luigi's body can affect the height of their jumps. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEkigdJddw8 Video] A backwards tilt can increase the height of jumps, while a forward tilt can do the opposite. Tilt is mostly determined by the slope of the surface you are standing on. SMG1 doesn't always reset tilt after coming off a sloped surface, allowing for higher jumps off of flat ground in some places. SMG2 tends to reset tilt more consistently, making it less exploitable.
+* '''Tilt:''' The tilt of Mario and Luigi's body can affect the height of their single, double, and triple jumps. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEkigdJddw8 Video] A backwards tilt can increase the height of jumps, while a forward tilt can do the opposite. Tilt is mostly determined by the slope of the surface you are standing on, but other environmental elements can have an effect. SMG1 doesn't always reset tilt after coming off a sloped surface, allowing for higher jumps off of flat ground in some places. SMG2 tends to reset tilt more consistently, making it less exploitable.
 * '''Mega sideflip:''' In some places, a sideflip can get much more height than usual. Start a sideflip while facing directly away or towards the camera, and then immediately hold left or right once the jump starts. This glitch also works in SMG1. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsh07wMnjRk Video]
 ==Momentum Boosting==

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	* '''Super Short Long Jump''' This trick's cause is unknown. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udT9uRxChEA Video]		* '''Super Short Long Jump''' This trick's cause is unknown. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udT9uRxChEA Video]

		+	* '''Tilt:''' The tilt of Mario and Luigi's body can affect the height of their jumps. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEkigdJddw8 Video] A backwards tilt can increase the height of jumps, while a forward tilt can do the opposite. Tilt is mostly determined by the slope of the surface you are standing on. SMG1 doesn't always reset tilt after coming off a sloped surface, allowing for higher jumps off of flat ground in some places. SMG2 tends to reset tilt more consistently, making it less exploitable.
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		+	* '''Mega sideflip:''' In some places, a sideflip can get much more height than usual. Start a sideflip while facing directly away or towards the camera, and then immediately hold left or right once the jump starts. This glitch also works in SMG1. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsh07wMnjRk Video]


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	* '''Getting extra lives quickly:''' It's often convenient to have lots of lives for testing purposes. The fastest way to get extra lives is to go to the planet with the giant Koopas in star 1 of Supermassive Galaxy. Long jump onto one of the Koopa's shells and bounce on it repeatedly. Starting from the 8th bounce, you'll get 1 extra life per bounce. You can get up to 99 lives. You can simply exit the level to keep the lives you've gained; you don't need to complete the level.		* '''Getting extra lives quickly:''' It's often convenient to have lots of lives for testing purposes. The fastest way to get extra lives is to go to the planet with the giant Koopas in star 1 of Supermassive Galaxy. Long jump onto one of the Koopa's shells and bounce on it repeatedly. Starting from the 8th bounce, you'll get 1 extra life per bounce. You can get up to 99 lives. You can simply exit the level to keep the lives you've gained; you don't need to complete the level.
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−	* '''Tilt:''' The tilt of Mario and Luigi's body can affect the height of their jumps. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEkigdJddw8 Video] A backwards tilt can increase the height of jumps, while a forward tilt can do the opposite. Tilt is mostly determined by the slope of the surface you are standing on. SMG1 doesn't always reset tilt after coming off a sloped surface, allowing for higher jumps off of flat ground in some places. SMG2 tends to reset tilt more consistently, making it less exploitable.
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−	* '''Mega sideflip:''' In some places, a sideflip can get much more height than usual. Start a sideflip while facing directly away or towards the camera, and then immediately hold left or right once the jump starts. This glitch also works in SMG1. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsh07wMnjRk Video]

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	* '''Getting extra lives quickly:''' It's often convenient to have lots of lives for testing purposes. The fastest way to get extra lives is to go to the planet with the giant Koopas in star 1 of Supermassive Galaxy. Long jump onto one of the Koopa's shells and bounce on it repeatedly. Starting from the 8th bounce, you'll get 1 extra life per bounce. You can get up to 99 lives. You can simply exit the level to keep the lives you've gained; you don't need to complete the level.		* '''Getting extra lives quickly:''' It's often convenient to have lots of lives for testing purposes. The fastest way to get extra lives is to go to the planet with the giant Koopas in star 1 of Supermassive Galaxy. Long jump onto one of the Koopa's shells and bounce on it repeatedly. Starting from the 8th bounce, you'll get 1 extra life per bounce. You can get up to 99 lives. You can simply exit the level to keep the lives you've gained; you don't need to complete the level.
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		+	* '''Tilt:''' The tilt of Mario and Luigi's body can affect the height of their jumps. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEkigdJddw8 Video] A backwards tilt can increase the height of jumps, while a forward tilt can do the opposite. Tilt is mostly determined by the slope of the surface you are standing on. SMG1 doesn't always reset tilt after coming off a sloped surface, allowing for higher jumps off of flat ground in some places. SMG2 tends to reset tilt more consistently, making it less exploitable.
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		+	* '''Mega sideflip:''' In some places, a sideflip can get much more height than usual. Start a sideflip while facing directly away or towards the camera, and then immediately hold left or right once the jump starts. This glitch also works in SMG1. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsh07wMnjRk Video]

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-=Momentum Boosting=
+==Momentum Boosting==
 When Mario or Luigi is standing on a moving surface, the motion of that surface is added to Mario and Luigi's jumps. For example, when standing on a platform moving to the right, doing a long jump to the right will give you extra speed and distance. Likewise, when on a platform moving upwards, jumps can reach higher than normal. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl0HW0py9zo#t=1m14s Video]
 *'''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlOo8xmTRJo Superbounce] or catapulting:''' A noteworthy application of momentum boosting can be done in areas with reversible platforms (e.g. Flip-Swap Galaxy). It's possible to do a jump off of these platforms while they are swinging upward. The upward movement of the platform pushes Mario or Luigi while he jumps to provide extra height and distance. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-Fss5TKjWE&t=10s Video]

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 ** Mario needs to run for 13 frames, which is a little under 2 steps.
 ** Luigi needs to run for 20 frames, which is a little under 3 steps.
-* Mario's spin gains about 13% more height than Luigi's.
+* Mario's spin gains slightly more height.
 * Luigi loses a chunk of air whenever he spins underwater.
 * Mario gains height faster with the Boo Mushroom.

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 __TOC__
-=Jumps=
 ==Jumps: Basics==
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 * '''Wall jumps''': You can maximize your height by spinning before the wall jump as well as after the wall jump.  Make sure you're not right against the wall when you spin, though, or you may deflect off of the wall without getting a spin boost.
 ** In many cases, a triple jump + spin + wall jump + spin combo will be the way to get the most height. However, a backflip + spin + wall jump + spin is easier, and sufficient for a lot of jump tricks.
 ==Jumps: Advanced==
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 * '''Super Short Long Jump''' This trick's cause is unknown. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udT9uRxChEA Video]
 =Momentum Boosting=
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 *If you do a midair spin before your first flutter, your infinite flutter's initial acceleration will be slightly faster than normal. This will gain you a little extra time and distance. However, this may also change the control stick input required to get the desired flutter angle.
 =Power-ups=
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 ** Backflipping: This is just like doing a cloud-boosted long-jump, except you start off stationary. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01Dbp84I1KY&t=40s Video]
 ** Quick cloud boosting: Make a cloud, tap Z, then tap A in quick succession to do an extra high regular jump. This is the quickest but most difficult cloud-boosted jump technique. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oku7tgFJKgc&t=19s Video]
 * '''Cloud clipping:''' There are 2 ways to move through the ground or a wall with clouds. Currently, no known shortcut utilizes these tricks:
 **The first method was found by akheon and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TFB93Hk9H8 Kazooie]. The way this works isn't exactly known, but it seems to require a wall for the cloud to clip through and a curved gravitational field.
 **<p>The [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nswebWU6w8M second method] exploits the fact that the sides of a cloud are solid. Normally, Mario and Luigi will die when they are crushed between 2 solid walls, but they cannot get crushed by the sides of a cloud.</p><p>To exploit this method, find a place with a moving wall (such as the end of Cloudy Court) or a place where wind can push a cloud against a wall. Make a cloud near the wall, run off a side of the cloud, and press backwards to cling to the side of the cloud. With correct timing, Mario or Luigi should get squeezed between the cloud and the wall and get pushed through the wall.</p>
 ==Fire Flower==
 * '''Quick fireballs:''' As Fire Mario/Luigi, repeatedly press Z while shaking the Wii remote to throw multiple fireballs without any delay between each. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYaR0hm1dhM&t=25s Video]
 ==Rock Mushroom==
-* '''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlv1Cs0tnk4 Midair spin jump]:''' Enter a roll as Rock Mario/Luigi and do a jump. While in the air, do a spin and repeatedly press A at the same time to do a midair jump that can potentially gain a lot of height. This trick can be inconsistent; you might want to try shaking the nunchuck if you find tapping A while shaking the Wii remote difficult. Seems to be consistent for one jump when you press A and Spin (flip nunchuck) at the same time.
+* <p>'''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlv1Cs0tnk4 Midair spin jump]:''' Enter a roll as Rock Mario/Luigi and do a jump. While in the air, do a spin and repeatedly press A at the same time to do a midair jump that can potentially gain a lot of height. This trick can be inconsistent; you might want to try shaking the nunchuck if you find tapping A while shaking the Wii remote difficult. Seems to be consistent for one jump when you press A and Spin (flip nunchuck) at the same time.</p><p>Additional details on how to do this trick are described [https://docs.google.com/document/d/13HenHN3IA2mQih2k8Ve_VZdK-yIoX8fnXB2g2eMaZGM/edit?usp=sharing here.]</p>
 * '''Rock Roll Cancel:''' Press Z while you are in midair to cancel your rock roll. This does not work after you hit a ramp, such as Melty Molten Galaxy.
 =Miscellaneous Tricks=
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 **[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRZEjh0ooo8 Jump cancel]: Press A to do a jump as soon as you land. The required timing is extremely strict (possibly frame perfect).
 **[http://www.nicovideo.jp/mylist/28116091 Camera cancel]: Quickly enter and exit first-person view upon landing. This approach is much easier than jump cancelling and it saves the same amount of time, but it can't be used during the initial landing into a Galaxy and in areas where first-person view is disabled.
 * '''Timing of moving elements:'''
 ** Cutscene skips: skipping (or not skipping) the cutscenes after selecting a star will affect the timing of moving elements.  This means that strategies may be adjusted depending on whether you are playing a full speedrun (where cutscenes can't be skipped) or an individual-level speedrun (where cutscenes may be skipped).  Examples: spike panels and electric wires in Painting the Planet Yellow, penguins in Passing the Swim Test, Tox Boxes in The Secret Undersea Cavern.
 ** Draw distance: some moving elements will not move at all when they are far away or offscreen.  In some levels, this means that when you want to practice a timed element in a level, you don't have to worry about speedrun mistakes that were made earlier in the level. In other levels, turning the camera toward enemies (to let them move) or away from enemies (to stop them) can be part of the speedrun strategy.
 * '''Getting extra lives quickly:''' It's often convenient to have lots of lives for testing purposes. The fastest way to get extra lives is to go to the planet with the giant Koopas in star 1 of Supermassive Galaxy. Long jump onto one of the Koopa's shells and bounce on it repeatedly. Starting from the 8th bounce, you'll get 1 extra life per bounce. You can get up to 99 lives. You can simply exit the level to keep the lives you've gained; you don't need to complete the level.

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 * '''Homing stomp:''' Mario and Luigi can perform a homing attack that will automatically target nearby enemies. To perform this technique, jump and use a midair spin attack. Before the spin attack has completed its animation, press Z to use your stomp attack. If your timing was right, you'll hear a different sound effect, and Mario/Luigi's landing will look different than it does after a normal stomp. If used close to an enemy, the stomp should home in on them. While this move could occasionally be useful in combat, its most interesting property is that it also targets NPCs such as the Toads. Frequently after bouncing off of an NPC's head this way, you will receive a significant horizontal boost, sometimes even greater than that of a long jump. The key is to doing this is to face away from the NPC. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1UiQE-tuEU Video]
-* '''Super Short Long Jump''' This trick's cause is unknown. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udT9uRxChEA Video]
+* '''Sideways wall-jump:''' To get a wall-jump that is nearly parallel to a wall, spin before touching the wall and hold the analog stick parallel to the wall during the spin. The longer you hold the analog stick parallel during the spin, the more parallel the wall-jump will be. This method can be used to get consecutive wall-jumps off of perpendicular walls.
 =Momentum Boosting=

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	*<p>Aiming a sideways infinite flutter can be tricky. While you can adjust your trajectory to point slightly less backwards at any time, you cannot aim any farther backwards once a few seconds have passed.</p><p>Generally, when trying to aim an infinite flutter, you should risk moving too far backwards rather than too far forward. If you're too far backwards, you can at least make an adjustment to your trajectory. In the worst case, you can slowly flutter forward until you reach your goal. On the other hand, if you're too far forward of your goal and you can't land or bounce off something, your only choice will be to dismount.</p>		*<p>Aiming a sideways infinite flutter can be tricky. While you can adjust your trajectory to point slightly less backwards at any time, you cannot aim any farther backwards once a few seconds have passed.</p><p>Generally, when trying to aim an infinite flutter, you should risk moving too far backwards rather than too far forward. If you're too far backwards, you can at least make an adjustment to your trajectory. In the worst case, you can slowly flutter forward until you reach your goal. On the other hand, if you're too far forward of your goal and you can't land or bounce off something, your only choice will be to dismount.</p>
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		+	*If you do a midair spin before your first flutter, your infinite flutter's initial acceleration will be slightly faster than normal. This will gain you a little extra time and distance. However, this may also change the control stick input required to get the desired flutter angle.

	=Power-ups=		=Power-ups=