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2015-10-10T16:53:53Z

‎Marble 1

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‎Marble 1

TimpZ: /* Marble 1 */

2015-10-10T16:04:19Z

‎Marble 1

TimpZ: /* Marble 1 */

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‎Marble 1

TimpZ: /* Marble 1 */

2015-10-10T15:59:39Z

‎Marble 1

Mike89: /* Scrap Brain 2 */

2015-08-21T13:23:13Z

‎Scrap Brain 2

Mike89: /* Scrap Brain 1 */

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‎Scrap Brain 1

Mike89: /* Star Light 1 */

2015-08-21T13:01:14Z

‎Star Light 1

Mike89: /* Spring Yard 1 */

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‎Spring Yard 1

Mike89: /* Marble 1 */

2015-08-21T12:19:11Z

‎Marble 1

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 [[Image:Marblezipalt3.png]]<br/><br/>
-Now hold left and release after 3-4 frames. As soon as you go through the wall you need to press left to avoid falling into the pit and dying.
+Now hold left, unpause and release after 3-4 frames. As soon as you go through the wall you need to press left to avoid falling into the pit and dying.
 The subpixels that work are:

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 {|
 |Frame#
-|Range
+| Range
 |-
 |1
-|20-90
+| 20-90
 |-
 |2
-|20-90
+| 20-90
 |-
 |3
-|20-220
+| 20-220
 |-
 |4
-|40-150
+| 40-150
 |}
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 {|
 |Frame#
-|Range
+| Range
 |-
 |3
-|20-200
+| 20-200
 |-
 |4
-|20-250
+| 20-250
 |}
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 *Pro's: Basically not dependent on subpixels and easy to set up since you only need to move 1 pixel which can be easier to tell from 2 with the other method.
-*Con's: Has a narrower frame-window for success and also puts you at risk of dying at the other side if you don't react quickly enough. Will also put you inside the wall more often than the other method.
+*Con's: Has a narrower frame-window for success and also puts you at risk of dying at the other side if you don't react quickly enough. Will also put you inside the wall more often than the other method if done wrong.
 <br/><br/>
 However you pass through the wall, remember to immediately kill both of the bats. If you don't, you won't reach the top of the spiked platform - and complete the stage.<br /><br />

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 After positioning yourself against the wall, while the platform moves down and back up, gently tap right enough times to shift Sonic two pixels to the right. The pixel you're looking for is this one:<br/><br/>
 [[Image:M1-1.png]]<br/><br/>
-Look particularly at Sonic's left foot - the vertical line that marks the left edge of the moving platform should basically bisect the flat part of Sonic's foot. This is kind of tricky at first, but experience will help.
+Look particularly at Sonic's grounded foot - the vertical line that marks the left edge of the moving platform should basically bisect the flat part of Sonic's foot. This is kind of tricky at first, but experience will help.
 <br/>
 Wait until Sonic reaches this approximate height: <br/>

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 *Pro's: Very easy to time, can be done the fastest and quick to retry.<br/>
 *Con's: Getting the right subpixels can be hard, especially under pressure.
-<br/><br/>
+<br/>
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 *Con's: Has a narrower frame-window for success and also puts you at risk of dying at the other side if you don't react quickly enough. Will also put you inside the wall more often than the other method.
 <br/><br/>
-However you pass through the wall, remember to immediately kill both of the bats. If you don't, you won't reach the top of the spiked platform - and complete the stage.<br />
+However you pass through the wall, remember to immediately kill both of the bats. If you don't, you won't reach the top of the spiked platform - and complete the stage.<br /><br />
 Target time: 0:26-0:29 if everything goes right first try. Each additional attempt at the zip costs six seconds, and if you miss the spiked platform cycle, that's another three gone.

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 ==Marble 1==
-*Make sure you grab the shield, otherwise it'll just get in your way later.
+Make sure you grab the shield, otherwise it'll just get in your way later.
-*Push against the wall on the moving platform until you're balancing inside it. From here, while the platform moves down and back up, gently tap right enough times to shift Sonic two pixels to the right. The pixel you're looking for is this one:
-[[Image:M1-1.png]]<br />
+From here there are two methods of zipping past the wall. If you push against the wall on the moving platform until you're balancing inside it you will be able to set up both depending on preference.
 Look particularly at Sonic's left foot - the vertical line that marks the left edge of the moving platform should basically bisect the flat part of Sonic's foot. This is kind of tricky at first, but experience will help.
-*As soon as you identify the pixel, stop pressing right. This is because the upcoming zip is subpixel-dependent: the subpixel range between 12 and 71 (out of 255) will let you go through the wall. So if you stop pressing right as soon as you identify this pixel, and your button presses are pretty short, then there's a good chance you'll fall in this range. The range 0-11 gets you stuck in the wall, though, from which you can only die.
+<br/>
-*When Sonic reaches this height (with Sonic's left foot roughly a third of the way up the block in the left wall), tap left, and the very next frame, hold jump:
+Wait until Sonic reaches this approximate height: <br/>
-[[Image:M1-2.png]]<br />
+[[Image:M1-2.png]]<br/><br/>
-This should put you on the other side of the wall. Immediately kill both of the bats - if you don't, you won't reach the top of the spiked platform - and complete the stage.<br />
+From here: Press left, hold jump and release left as soon as possible. As soon as you identify the pixel, stop pressing right. Subpixels are counted from left to right in values between 0 and 255 and the values that work are as follows:
 Target time: 0:29 if everything goes right first try. Each additional attempt at the zip costs six seconds, and if you miss the spiked platform cycle, that's another three gone.
 ==Marble 2==

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 ==Scrap Brain 2==
-*The trick with this clip here is to be at the same height as the trapdoor as it closes. The timing's a bit tricky, but you get it with practice. One in the wall, hold right until you see Sonic drop, then switch to left to zip.
+*The trick with this clip here is to be at the same height as the trapdoor as it closes. The timing's a bit tricky, but you get it with practice. Once in the wall, hold right until you see Sonic drop, then switch to left to zip.
-*After the tube, jump from the lowest part of the upslope and hold the jump all the way into the pit. It should bounce off the second of the 10 ring boxes in the pit, continue to hold the jump until you get out.
+*After the tube, jump from the lowest part of the upslope and hold the jump all the way into the pit, and tap left slightly just as you near the bottom. It should bounce off the first of the 10 ring boxes in the pit, continue to hold the jump until you get out.
 Target time: 0:35

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 *After going over both of the trapdoors, jump from the very edge of the yellow and black platform, like so:
 [[File:SB1-1.png]]<br />
-This should land directly on the switch. Then make three quick jumps up these platforms, wait for one cycle of the rotating platforms, then just run through both of them.<br />
+This should land directly on the switch. Then make three quick jumps up these platforms, run through the first set of rotating platforms and stop, wait for one cycle of the second set, then run through the second set.<br />
 Target time: 0:44

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 *Much like in Marble 2, you need to line up on the leftmost pixel of the platform to stand in the wall and get the zip here. What can make it harder in this stage, though, is that you only have a short time to line it up, and it's harder to use the foot as a visual cue with the wall in the way. Once you're on this pixel, though, you should wait until the platform reaches the bottom and the bomb explodes, then hold right and release it as soon as Sonic leaves the wall:
 [[File:SL1-1.png]]
-*Getting the correct speed out of the wall is also subpixel dependent, meaning you can do everything right and still only get thrown out at a slow speed which won't trigger the level wrap. From here, the platform position resets so you can attempt it again, but it costs eight seconds.
+*Getting the correct speed out of the wall is also based on your subpixels. If your subpixels are between 0 and 159 (where 0 is the far "left" of the pixel), you'll get the correct speed for the level wrap, and if they're 160 or above you won't. So once you identify that you're standing on the correct pixel, tapping left once more increases your odds of being in the right position.If you don't trigger the level wrap, the platform position resets so you can attempt it again, but it costs eight seconds.
 *Taking the regular path through the stage only costs around 9-10 seconds against a first try level wrap here. It's a very simple route too, the only thing you really have to worry about is landing on the yellow spring after the first ramp, and even that is well marked by the line of five rings directly above it.
 Target time: 0:16 with the level wrap, 0:25 without.

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 *The jump off the ramp onto the red spring should be left as late as possible. Additionally, let go of all directions on the way down. Press down as you hit the ramp, then right to land on the wall.
 *The jump off the wall also needs to be held back as late as possible, which is kind of tricky because you can't see where you are! If you jump too early though, you'll just fall to the bottom which takes a long time to recover from.
-*If you get a jump from the very edge of the upsloped ramp, you can land right on the platform above the spring and save a bit of time. It's safer, especially if you verify that it's the wrong height, to let the jump go shortly after launching it, land on the lower platforms with the rings and jump up.
+*Jump from the very end of the flat green platform, over the two sloped platforms. Then do a full jump from the third pole in the background, and piano roll at the height of the jump to catch the top part of the rotating platform and get another jump off it.
 *Once on the upper platform, do a full size jump from just after the last post on this platform, around here:
 [[Image:SY1-1.png]]<br />
-This should land on a spiked enemy way out in front. Hold jump until just after you hit the enemy, this will give you enough of a bounce to clear the two spikeballs up ahead but not waste time waiting to fall into the spring pit.
+This should land you just past the spiked enemy out in front, and holding right from here gets you across both spike ball pits easily.
 *It's possible to hit the tiny gap in the right wall directly, but it needs to be hit perfectly and if you miss, the spring throws you back up, costing about three seconds and potentially getting you hit.
 *The speed shoes can sometimes run out on the final stretch. If you think they will, roll (and let go of right) to prevent the [[Sonic_the_Hedgehog_game_mechanics_and_glitches#Speed_cap|speed cap]] from kicking in.