Solomon's Key (NES)/best ending - Revision history

Ktwo: /* Room 47 */

2021-06-27T21:39:44Z

‎Room 47

Ktwo: /* READ THIS FIRST */

2021-06-27T21:39:08Z

‎READ THIS FIRST

Ktwo at 21:38, 27 June 2021

2021-06-27T21:38:41Z

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Ktwo: /* Solomon's room */

2016-09-23T20:18:06Z

‎Solomon's room

Ktwo: /* Room 14 */

2016-09-23T20:12:51Z

‎Room 14

Ktwo: /* Room 22 */

2016-09-01T19:07:53Z

‎Room 22

Ktwo: /* Room 47 */

2016-08-27T14:27:34Z

‎Room 47

Ktwo: /* Room 4 */

2016-08-12T21:16:44Z

‎Room 4

Ktwo at 19:05, 28 March 2015

2015-03-28T19:05:27Z

Ktwo at 13:10, 11 October 2014

2014-10-11T13:10:53Z

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 =Room 47=
 https://vimeo.com/568195763<br />
-Very difficult room. There aren't really any good alternative to the two drops (without wasting massive amounts of time). Note the comments about these drops in [[Solomon's Key (NES)/normal ending#Room 1|normal ending (room 47)]].<br />
+Very difficult room. There aren't really any good alternative to the two drops (without wasting massive amounts of time). Note the comments about these drops in [[Solomon's Key (NES)/normal ending#Room 47|normal ending (room 47)]].<br />
 =Room 48=

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 ==READ THIS FIRST==
-The route described on this page is based work leading up to the current SDA-run. Faster routes have been found in many rooms. The best resource at the time of writing is likely https://www.twitch.tv/videos/476186679 and https://www.twitch.tv/videos/408912547.
+The route described on this page is based work leading up to the current SDA-run. Faster routes have been found in many rooms. The best resource at the time of writing are likely https://www.twitch.tv/videos/476186679 and https://www.twitch.tv/videos/408912547.
 ==Category description==

← Older revision		Revision as of 20:18, 23 September 2016
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−	Same as in the [[Solomon's Key (NES)/normal ending#Solomon's room\|normal ending (Solomon's room)]] run~~. However, the faster solution doesn't seem to work because the enemy positions are slightly shifted in a best ending speedrun (for unknown reasons)~~.	+	Same as in the [[Solomon's Key (NES)/normal ending#Solomon's room\|normal ending (Solomon's room)]] run.

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 =Room 14=
 Same as in the [[Solomon's Key (NES)/normal ending#Room 14|normal ending (room 14)]] run. (the fireball inventory doesn't necessary match with previous/next rooms).<br /><br />
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eRCAxsRD6E<br />
-This is an even safer way to clear the room. It's two seconds slower than the fastest solution.<br />
+This is a very safe way to clear the room. It's two seconds slower though.<br />
 =Room 15=

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 =Room 22=
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkupGoRc8Ag<br />
+Same as in the [[Solomon's Key (NES)/normal ending#Room 22|normal ending (room 22)]] run. (the fireball inventory doesn't necessary match with previous/next rooms). If following the route in this guide, the super fireball is be picked up in this room.<br />
 =Room 23=

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 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3HlDd_CxMo<br />
-Just a demonstration of how to pick up the seal in a safer way. It's one second slower though. Considering it's late in the game, it basically boils down to an individual risk-reward decision that has to be made in a speedrun setting.<br />
+Just a demonstration of how to pick up the seal in a safer way. It's one second slower though. Considering it's late in the game, it basically boils down to an individual risk-reward decision that has to be made in a speedrun setting.<br /><br />
 =Room 48=

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 =Room 4=
-Same as in the [[Solomon's Key (NES)/normal ending#Room 4|normal ending (room 4)]] run.<br />
+Same as in the [[Solomon's Key (NES)/normal ending#Room 4|normal ending (room 4)]] run. However, the fireball can be collected for an overall time save of one second (~0.3 seconds slower here in room 4, but then saving ~1.3 seconds in room 8): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfDesiyTDbY. The cost for this second is two running edge jumps though.<br />
 =Room 5=

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 ==Level-by-level description==
-VIDEOS WITH AN ASTERISK (*) USE FASTER STRATS THAN IN THE CURRENT SDA-RUN
+VIDEOS WITH AN ASTERISK (*) USE FASTER STRATS THAN IN THE CURRENT SDA-RUN (ktwo, 2014-10-12)
 =Room 1=
 Same as in the [[Solomon's Key (NES)/normal ending#Room 1|normal ending (room 1)]] run.<br />
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 Just like in the [[Solomon's Key (NES)/normal ending|normal ending]] run, the room solution looks slow. The enemies quite efficiently prevent faster solutions (without resorting to very tight maneuvers such as shown in the tas). It can also be sped up by one sec with the use of a fireball, but that doesn't seem to work well with the fireball management in the following rooms.<br /><br />
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVbJ2vY_xZo<br />
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVbJ2vY_xZo< *br />
 seconds faster than the above solution. Of course it comes with a cost of added risk...<br />
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 =Room 12=
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNBb5Kau_sQ *<br />
+http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNBb5Kau_sQ<br />
 Without mistakes, Dana will be able to break the block containing the super fireball before the Saramandor has passed by overhead. You therefore need to make a small pause somewhere before to prevent that from happening.<br />
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 =Room 21=
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgtQ5mR8DdE<br />
-It doesn't seem like the faster solution shown in the [[Solomon's Key (NES)/normal ending#Room 21|normal ending (room 21)]] is possible when not using warps? To be verified...
+It doesn't seem like the faster solution shown in the [[Solomon's Key (NES)/normal ending#Room 21|normal ending (room 21)]] is possible when not using warps.
 =Room 22=
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 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RaT0NBa8HI<br /><br />
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Df0qEfJV9w *<br />
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Df0qEfJV9w<br />
 This one is a little over a second faster, but also adds risk and there is not much room for error to reach the top in time before the second ghost arrives. The good thing is that you can revert back to the solution above if you make a small mistake along the way.<br />
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 Just like the comment for the [[Solomon's Key (NES)/normal ending|normal ending]] run, this room could be faster with more use of advanced techniques (zigzag climbing etc). It's fairly late in the game and risk increases dramatically though. The solution shown here is not trivial, but still relatively safe.<br /><br />
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV1WEeLxUuA<br />
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV1WEeLxUuA *<br />
 Difficult solution, but a little over 4 seconds faster than above (1 enemy cycle).<br /><br />
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 =Room 33=
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iUTwLeJiY0 *<br />
+http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iUTwLeJiY0<br />
 Without mistakes, you'll jump into the top bat just before descending to the exit. You need a small pause to prevent that from happening, but of course not so long that you risk colliding with the bat on the right side...<br />
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 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siOGzHkdqsI<br />
-This is an easier alternative, which uses a super fireball. It's one second faster than above.<br />
+This is an easier alternative, which uses a super fireball. It's one second faster than above, but is overall slower since picking up the super fireball costs ~1.5 seconds (room 12 or 39).<br />
 =Room 37=
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 =Room 39=
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgKARpbq6DE *<br />
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgKARpbq6DE<br />
 Collecting the super fireball near the exit assumes a super fireball was used in room 36, but that's in total half a second slower than not using one in room 36.<br />
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 =Room 42=
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFmGN5p35PA *<br />
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFmGN5p35PA<br />
 =Room 43=
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 =Room 44=
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qYgjVdSlm8 *<br />
+http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qYgjVdSlm8<br />
 This route is pretty optimal for a real-time speedrun (and very similar to the current tas). However, there are many sections in the room that can be done slightly slower, but also make it easier/less prone to time losses because imperfect execution.<br />
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 =Room 47=
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKCSMhGVYmE *<br />
+http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKCSMhGVYmE<br />
 Very difficult room. There aren't really any good alternative to the two drops (without wasting massive amounts of time).<br /><br />