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Aperturegrillz at 22:53, 2 February 2017

2017-02-02T22:53:56Z

Aperturegrillz: /* 25: Try Again */

2016-07-30T01:21:08Z

‎25: Try Again

Aperturegrillz: /* 25: Try Again */

2016-07-30T01:19:37Z

‎25: Try Again

Aperturegrillz: /* 2: Never Burn Money */

2016-07-22T18:59:53Z

‎2: Never Burn Money

Aperturegrillz: /* 2: Never Burn Money */

2016-07-22T18:59:38Z

‎2: Never Burn Money

Aperturegrillz: /* 2: Never Burn Money */

2016-07-16T20:22:35Z

‎2: Never Burn Money

Aperturegrillz at 20:19, 16 July 2016

2016-07-16T20:19:02Z

Aperturegrillz: /* 6: Smells Like Napalm, Tastes Like Chicken! */

2016-07-15T22:53:13Z

‎6: Smells Like Napalm, Tastes Like Chicken!

Aperturegrillz: /* 15: Neither High nor Low */

2016-06-30T23:19:46Z

‎15: Neither High nor Low

Aperturegrillz: /* 10: Bob-B-Q */

2016-06-29T17:16:54Z

‎10: Bob-B-Q

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 A note about the crosshairs:  Aleph One has an option in the preferences to place a crosshairs onscreen.  As this did not exist in the original versions of the games, it should not be allowed.
 ==M2 XBLA==
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 ==Difficulty setting==
-In my opinion, only two of the five difficulty settings should be used for runs: Kindergarten and Total Carnage.  The intermediate difficulties would make for too many categories.
+Similar to how Halo speedruns are done on Easy and Legendary, only two of the five difficulty settings should be used for runs: Kindergarten and Total Carnage.  The intermediate difficulties would make for too many categories.
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 ==AR flying==
-While moving backwards, aim down and fire both triggers on the assault rifle to fly horizontally.  Works far better in the later games (gives excellent speed as well), but can be useful in M1 for crossing certain gaps.
+In M2/Infinity, while moving backwards, aim down and fire both triggers on the assault rifle to fly horizontally.  In M1, AR flying can be done while pointing in the direction of travel, but it's not as effective.
 ==Running Punch==
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 ==7: Cool Fusion==
-You don't actually ''need'' to get the fusion pistol, nor do you have to visit the polygon the fusion pistol is on, you just have to make it to the end terminal to exit the level.  You can grab it if you want, but it's probably faster to get the one in G4 Sunbathing.  Also, this level has the first wall climb in the run.  After using the 2X recharger, you can wall climb up to the final section of the level.  You'll be almost dead, but you skip basically everything, including lost of waiting for slow platforms.  On TC, be careful not to die as you make your way to the end.  You might be able to run past the cloaked compilers and burn everything in the final room fast enough to read the terminal before they catch up and kill you.
+You don't actually ''need'' to get the fusion pistol, nor do you have to visit the polygon the fusion pistol is on, you just have to make it to the end terminal to exit the level.  You can grab it if you want, but it's probably faster to get the one in G4 Sunbathing.  Also, this level has the first wall climb in the run.  After using the 2X recharger, you can wall climb up to the final section of the level.  You'll be at low health, but you skip basically everything, including lots of waiting for slow platforms.  On TC, be careful not to die as you make your way to the end.  You might be able to run past the cloaked compilers and burn everything in the final room fast enough to read the terminal before they catch up and kill you.
 ==8: G4 Sunbathing==
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 ==23: Ain't Got Time Pfhor This==
-Thankfully, the final Pfhor ship level is one where you can just head for the end... almost.  You need to activate the two switches in the central room first.  When it comes to hitting the switches, keep in mind that grenades in these levels are essentially unaffected by gravity.
+At the very beginning of the level, you can drop into the first plasma pit, walk to the right, then fly back up with the flamethrower or alien weapon to the end of the next hallway to skip some running around.  Before going to the end, you need to activate the two switches in the large central room.  When it comes to hitting the switches, keep in mind that grenades in these levels are essentially unaffected by gravity.  After you have hit both, run to the other end of the large room and take the teleporter, which will deposit you near the window you leave from.
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-At the very beginning of the level, you can drop into the first plasma pit, turn right, then fly back up with the flamethrower or alien weapon to the end of the next hallway to skip running around.
 ==24: Welcome To The Revolution...==
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 A grenade jump skips the switch to raise the stairs in the lava room.
-In the final room, you can rocket jump or wall climb to the exit terminal.
+In the final room, you can rocket jump or grenade climb to the exit terminal.
 ==25: Try Again==
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 ==26: Ingue Ferroque==
-You can rocket jump straight from the start to the end.  It can be deceptively tricky, so be sure to practice it a lot before trying to do runs.
+You can rocket jump straight from the start to the end.  Stand with your left side to the wall, facing the right edge of the 3X charger, fire a rocket straight ahead, then fire another one downwards to give you the extra height to reach the ledge from which you can jump to the ending terminal.  This can be tricky, but if you mess up you can just fill up your 3X shields again and retry.
 =Marathon 2: Durandal=
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 ==Slings And Arrows Of Outrageous Fortune==
-An easy get to the end level.  On TC, make a small detour for the secret fusion pistol.
+An easy get to the end level.  On TC, perhaps make a small detour for the secret fusion pistol.
 ==Charon Doesn't Make Change==
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 ==Curiouser And Curiouser==
-The enemies will clog up quite a bit on your way out from destroying the second switch.  For the final section with the pillars, you can AR fly over the gaps to skip hitting the switches.
+The enemies will clog up quite a bit on your way out from destroying the second switch.  For the final section with the pillars, you can AR fly over the gaps to skip hitting the switches.  You can also AR fly directly from the left ledge to the right one, though it's tricky to pull off.
 ==Eat It, Vid Boi==
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 ==6000 Feet Under==
-The one level where your spawn location makes a big difference on your time.  You can rocket or grenade jump straight to the end, though the grenade jump is a bit unusual, as it requires you hit yourself with at least two of the grenades.
+The one level where your spawn location makes a big difference on your time.  If you get the second-worst spawn (on the lowest level but in the main room with many ledges), you can fire a grenade while in midair to push yourself over so you land on a higher ledge.  After leaving this room, you can rocket or grenade jump to skip the rest of the level.
 ==If I Had A Rocket Launcher, I'd Make Someone Pay==
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 ==Sorry Don't Make It So==
-Interestingly enough, this is tagged as an extermination level.  Fortunately for us, the required kills are either extraordinarily low, or Bungie messed up somewhere, as getting to the exit term is enough to end the level.  Go through the first openable door as a shortcut to the plasma swim area.  Once there, you can (if you have the shields)swim straight to the exit.
+Interestingly enough, this is tagged as an extermination level.  Fortunately for us, the required kills are either extraordinarily low, or Bungie messed up somewhere, as getting to the exit term is enough to end the level.  Go through the first openable door as a shortcut to the plasma swim area.  Once there, you can (if you have the shields) swim straight to the exit.
 ==For Carnage, Apply Within==
-Hint: use the map to quickly identify your starting location.  On Kindergarten, you can make a run straight for the end.  On TC, that's pretty much suicide, so instead run to the 2X recharger/pattern buffer and rocket jump from there up to the door to the exit room, grabbing the yellow canister and ammo before leaving the level.
+Hint: use the map to quickly identify your starting location.  On Kindergarten, you can make a run straight for the end.  On TC, that's pretty much suicide, so instead run to the 2X recharger/pattern buffer and grenade jump from there up to the door to the exit room, grabbing the yellow canister and ammo before leaving the level.
 ==Begging for Mercy Makes Me Angry==
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 ==Big House==
-If you get really really lucky, an enforcer might die lose enough to the window to get his weapon.
+Immediately bring up your fists and punch the enforcer to get the action started.  If you get really really lucky, an enforcer might die close enough to the window for you to get its weapon.
 ==This Side Toward Enemy==
-Simple enough for Kindergarten runs (though being a hit from death is a bit scary).  On TC, the dual pistols are the fastest way to take out any compilers that block you in the last section, and you'll definitely want to detour for that fusion pistol.
+Simple enough for Kindergarten runs (though being one hit from death is a bit scary).  On TC, the dual pistols are the fastest way to take out any compilers that block you in the last section, and you'll definitely want to detour for that fusion pistol.
 ==God Will Sort The Dead==
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 ==My Own Private Thermopylae==
-At first, activate the central  and left stairways, then charge your shields.  Grab the AR and grenade jump out of the water to reach the Toth switch on the right section of the level.  A good AR fly to the lower ledge afterwards will let you avoid falling into the water.  From there, get to the second switch, then back to the start to leave.  Grab the rocket launcher before you do.
+At first, activate the central  and left stairways, then charge your shields.  Grab the AR and grenade jump out of the water to reach the Thoth switch on the right section of the level.  A good AR fly to the lower ledge afterwards will let you avoid falling into the water.  From there, get to the second switch, then back to the start to leave.  Grab the rocket launcher before you do.
 ==Kill Your Television==
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 ==Where The Twist Flops==
-Without taking damage (duh), get to the invisibility, and use it to make your way to the 2X recharger, killing as you go (another extermination level).  From there, clear out everything as you loop back to the start; unfortunately, there's no way to avoid waiting for elevators here.  Explode-A-Bobs don't explode when burned to death.
+Without taking damage (duh), get to the invincibility, and use it to make your way to the 2X recharger, killing as you go (another extermination level).  From there, clear out everything as you loop back to the start; unfortunately, there's no way to avoid waiting for elevators here.  Explode-A-Bobs don't explode when burned to death.
 ==Beware Of Abandoned Rental Trucks==
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 ==Requiem For A Cyborg==
-THat flamethrower is great for taking out the numerous fighters that get in your way.  The shotgun also works really well for hitting the last three switches, followed by a non-damaging rocket jump to the exit terminal.
+That flamethrower is great for taking out the numerous fighters that get in your way.  The shotgun also works really well for hitting the last three switches, followed by a non-damaging rocket jump to the exit terminal.
 ==Fatum Iustum Stultorum==
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 ==Ne Cede Malis==
-There's a super secret switch (probably a leftover from testing) hidden behind a solid wall that will immediately open the doors to the final area.  It's located in the room with the oxygen recharger, at the vertical light strip on the wall just right of said recharger.  Simply mash up against the light and hit tab to activate it, though note that there's no sound to confirm you've done so.
+There's a secret switch (probably a leftover from testing) hidden behind a solid wall that will immediately open the doors to the final area.  It's located in the room with the oxygen recharger, at the vertical light strip on the wall just right of said recharger.  Simply mash up against the light and hit tab to activate it, though note that there's no sound to confirm you've done so.

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 ==25: Try Again==
-Extermination.  Use those rockets.  Note that the Juggernauts are invincible to bullet fire (from the pistol and AR primary fire).  Short of rockets, the most effective weapon by far for killing them is the Alien Weapon.  Unloading an entire Alien Weapon plus one rocket into a Juggernaut will kill it on Kindergarten.  Remember not to be too close to any of them when they die -- it hurts.
+Extermination.  Use those rockets.  Note that the Juggernauts are invincible to bullet fire (from the pistol and AR primary fire).  Short of rockets, the most effective weapon by far for killing them is the alien weapon.  Unloading an entire alien weapon plus one rocket into a Juggernaut will kill it on Kindergarten, which might actually be faster than the 4 rockets it otherwise takes.  If you don't have an alien weapon or rockets, the fusion pistol is probably the next best option.  Use primary fire until only one shot remains, then fire a charged shot -- you'll get more damage without using any extra ammo.  Remember not to be too close to the Juggernauts when they die -- it hurts.
 ==26: Ingue Ferroque==

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 ==25: Try Again==
-Extermination.  Use those rockets.
+Extermination.  Use those rockets.  Note that the Juggernauts are invincible to bullet fire (from the pistol and AR primary fire).  Short of rockets, the most effective weapon by far for killing them is the Alien Weapon.  Unloading an entire Alien Weapon plus one rocket into a Juggernaut will kill it on Kindergarten.  Remember not to be too close to any of them when they die -- it hurts.
 ==26: Ingue Ferroque==

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 ==2: Never Burn Money==
-After you spawn, you can hit the action key twice to open the second part of the multi-section door out of the starting room.  This is the first complete a task level.  You need to collect all three uplink chips before you can exit the level.  On Kindergarten, it's faster to make your way directly to the first two chips without recharging, then use the charger at the end of the level before grenade jumping onto the platform.  On Total Carnage this is probably not feasible.
+After you spawn, you can hit the action key twice to open the second part of the multi-section door out of the starting room a little faster.  This is the first complete a task level.  You need to collect all three uplink chips before you can exit the level.  On Kindergarten, it's faster to make your way directly to the first two chips without recharging, then use the charger at the end of the level before grenade jumping onto the platform.  On Total Carnage this is probably not feasible.
 After recharging, head downstairs, pick up the two chips and the secret ammo stash, then go straight back up and to the elevator to the final section.  Make your way through the enemies and use a grenade jump to reach the raised platform in the final room, rather than hitting the switch.  From there, proceed to the end as normal.

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 ==2: Never Burn Money==
-The first complete a task level.  You need to collect all three uplink chips before you can exit the level.  Prior to that, though, you need to recharge your shields.  On Kindergarten, you can head straight there, mowing down anything in your way.  For TC, lure the enemies away, then loop around through the back hallway to access the recharger.
+After you spawn, you can hit the action key twice to open the second part of the multi-section door out of the starting room.  This is the first complete a task level.  You need to collect all three uplink chips before you can exit the level.  On Kindergarten, it's faster to make your way directly to the first two chips without recharging, then use the charger at the end of the level before grenade jumping onto the platform.  On Total Carnage this is probably not feasible.
 After recharging, head downstairs, pick up the two chips and the secret ammo stash, then go straight back up and to the elevator to the final section.  Make your way through the enemies and use a grenade jump to reach the raised platform in the final room, rather than hitting the switch.  From there, proceed to the end as normal.

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	After recharging, head downstairs, pick up the two chips and the secret ammo stash, then go straight back up and to the elevator to the final section. Make your way through the enemies and use a grenade jump to reach the raised platform in the final room, rather than hitting the switch. From there, proceed to the end as normal.		After recharging, head downstairs, pick up the two chips and the secret ammo stash, then go straight back up and to the elevator to the final section. Make your way through the enemies and use a grenade jump to reach the raised platform in the final room, rather than hitting the switch. From there, proceed to the end as normal.
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		+	On TC it may be worthwhile to detour through the secret door to "the pit" to get 3X shields, invincibility, and some extra AR ammunition, then grenade climb to the teleporter to return to the main part of the level, as this would give you a bunch of health to provide safety for the next few levels.

	==3: Defend THIS!==		==3: Defend THIS!==

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	In my opinion, only two of the five difficulty settings should be used for runs: Kindergarten and Total Carnage. The intermediate difficulties would make for too many categories.		In my opinion, only two of the five difficulty settings should be used for runs: Kindergarten and Total Carnage. The intermediate difficulties would make for too many categories.
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		+	=Other Resources=
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		+	Here are other pages that have maps and tips for many levels of the game:
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		+	[http://marathon.bungie.org/vidmaster/vidtipstricks.html Vidmaster Tips & Tricks page]
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		+	[http://marathon.bungie.org/spoiler/ Marathon Spoiler Guide]

	=Major Tricks=		=Major Tricks=

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 ==6: Smells Like Napalm, Tastes Like Chicken!==
-A task level again.  Hit the switches in the maintenance tunnels, then go to the end.  For the right set of tunnels, the platform to leave the area with the switch takes so long to move, you can activate it, run to the switch, then get back just as it rises.  For the puzzle with the blue and green platforms, hit the bottom switch of the right pair to raise the first blue platform, then run across the already-raised green ones.
+A task level again.  You only have to hit the switch on the right side of the map to complete the level.  For the right set of tunnels, the platform to leave the area with the switch takes so long to move, you can activate it, run to the switch, then get back just as it rises.  For the puzzle with the blue and green platforms, hit the bottom switch on the right wall to raise the first blue platform, stand on it as it rises, then run across the already-raised green ones.
-On TC, make a detour for the flamethrower.
+On TC, make a detour for the flamethrower - just make sure you get back on the elevator before it rises, or you'll be trapped and have to restart.
 ==7: Cool Fusion==

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 ==15: Neither High nor Low==
-One more level that can be all but completely skipped.  Precise straferunning lets you jump around the pillars separating the spiral stairs into sections, allowing you to head straight for the switch that raises the central platform.  Instead of hitting the switch and trying to catch the central platform, you can also AR fly (2 grenades) from the top of the spiral stairs into the hallway.  Make sure to grab the rocket launcher and the 3X shields before leaving.
+One more level that can be all but completely skipped.  Precise straferunning lets you jump around the pillars separating the spiral stairs into sections, allowing you to head straight for the switch that raises the central platform.  Instead of hitting the switch and trying to catch the central platform, you can also AR fly (2 grenades) from the top of the spiral stairs into the hallway.  Make sure to grab the rocket launcher and the 3X shields before leaving.  If you have the health, you can grenade jump up to the platform that has them, otherwise run around and take the elevator.
 ==16: Pfhor Your Eyes Only...==

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 ==10: Bob-B-Q==
-A grenade jump right at the start of the level lets you skip almost everything.  Not sure how feasible it is on TC though.
+On Kindergarten, you can immediately grenade jump up to your right from the start, run through the corridor, activate the switch, jump on the platform as it rises and then into the corridor leading to the end of the level.
 ==11: Shake Before Using...==