Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories/Sora - Revision history

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‎Tackling Traverse Town

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‎Farming

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‎The Consistent Route

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‎Introduction

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 * Keep in mind that your deck is often multiple reloads long, build it with the second or third reload in mind.
 * Mixing enemy cards in with the rest of your deck can be confusing
-* Well built combos: Avoid using kingdom keys to attack when you can. Second and third world set keys are in general better than first world set ones. Crabclaw, Three Wishes, and Olympia (slower swing speed than Three Wishes) are combo finishers, Oathkeeper is second hit, Divine Rose is first hit, and everything else can go in either of the first two hits.
+* Well built combos: Avoid using kingdom keys to attack when you can. Second and third world set keys are in general better than first world set ones. Crabclaw, Three Wishes, and Olympia (slower swing speed than Three Wishes) are combo finishers, Oathkeeper is second hit, Divine Rose is first hit, and everything else can go in either of the first two hits. For a more numerical presentation, the table below describes the damage values of relevant Keyblades which were gathered by TASers.
-{| class="wikitable"
+{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
 |-
-! Attack
+| Kindgom Key || 10 || 10 || 15
-! Strike
+|-
-! Thrust
+| Three Wishes || 20|| 10 || 30
-! Finish
+|-
-|- Kingdom Key | 10 | 10 | 15
+| Pumpkinhead || 20 || 20 || 15
 |}
 == Your First Deck ==
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 What you want to leave Traverse Town with:
 * 3-4 (Preferably 4) Blizzards
-* Your 8 highest attack cards
+* Your eight highest attack cards
 * The same potion and cure
 * Whatever 0s you have (you don't ever need more than 3)
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 * When you obtain blizzard raid, move your blizzards to the first column, switching them with the attack cards that are there.
 * Continue updating your attack cards if you can
-== The Raids Deck ==
+== The Berserk Deck ==
-This is the deck you create after your first trip to the moogle room. Depending on how much you edited the first deck and moogle pack luck, you may fin that the attack cards in deck one are horribly out of date. If so, make a new deck. Otherwise, it may be faster to make 3 spaces before the first card, remove the blizzards from your deck, and make 4 new rows before the potion
+Make a new deck for this one right before fighting Oogie Boogie.
-−
-What you should have:
-* 3 or more Cloud
-* Some assortment of Blizzard and Fire cards
-* Some assortment of usually high value Kingdom Keys and usually low value Wishing Stars and Olympias
-* The same (or a higher value) potion and cure
-* Some number of enemy cards, hopefully at least one Elemental Boost
 Deck Structure:
-* Up to 8 raids, and hopefully that many. Fire raids should come first to strike at Parasite Cage, Hook, and Vexen's Weaknesses.
+* Three cards that are exactly 0 or 7. By default you'll have a 0 and a 7 Kingdom Key, and a 7 cure, but you should have a second 0 by this point. Cut the cure for it.
-* Keep the ratio of Fire to Blizzard raids 1:1 if you have fire and blizzard boost, ~1:3 or 1:7 if you only have blizzard boost and ~3:1 or 7:1 if you only have fire boost.
+* Your twelve best attack cards, regardless of what number value they have
-* Keep the raid value sums as high as possible and always keep them above 10. That said, it is better to have a few really good raids and a few with a sum of 11 or 10 than to keep all of them at around 15, say.
+* Your highest value potion
-* Value is more important than attack card type!
+* The Hades enemy card, berserk
-* Order the raids from highest to lowest sum
-* Keep the potion and cure in if you can, but if CP is tight, ditch the cure
-* As many clouds as you can throw in such that each omnislash you use is above 10. (incrementor can help with this if you've got it!) More Clouds will save you time.
-* As many 0s as you can throw in
-* Hopefully a nocturne, followed by hopefully a rhapsody, followed by optionally shadows.
-== The Berserk Deck ==
+Before fighting Jafar, after the moogle room, delete the deck and make a new berserk deck.
-Make a new deck for this one. What you have is the same as for the raids deck You make and equip this right before fighting Jafar
 Deck Structure:

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 * Mixing enemy cards in with the rest of your deck can be confusing
 * Well built combos: Avoid using kingdom keys to attack when you can. Second and third world set keys are in general better than first world set ones. Crabclaw, Three Wishes, and Olympia (slower swing speed than Three Wishes) are combo finishers, Oathkeeper is second hit, Divine Rose is first hit, and everything else can go in either of the first two hits.
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 * Mixing enemy cards in with the rest of your deck can be confusing
 * Well built combos: Avoid using kingdom keys to attack when you can. Second and third world set keys are in general better than first world set ones. Crabclaw, Three Wishes, and Olympia (slower swing speed than Three Wishes) are combo finishers, Oathkeeper is second hit, Divine Rose is first hit, and everything else can go in either of the first two hits.
 == Your First Deck ==

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 = Deck Editing =
-The next important aspect of this game is the dynamic deck of abilities and attacks under your command. The route that speedrunners use thankfully takes a ton of card points upon leveling up, so you have almost unlimited freedom to build a powerful deck. The best defense in Chain of Memories is a solid offense, so good planning is required to avoid damage and time loss.
+The next important aspect of this game is the deck. The route that speedrunners use thankfully takes a ton of card points upon leveling up, so you have almost unlimited freedom to build a powerful deck. The best defense in Chain of Memories is a solid offense, so good planning is required to avoid damage and time loss.
 == Quick Menuing ==

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 Dealing with Shadow-R:
-* Take a step or two back and fire a blizzara at the center. It will hit both of them simultaneously. Combo the rhapsodies.
+Take a step or two back and fire a blizzara at the center. It will hit both of them simultaneously. Combo the rhapsodies.
 Dealing with ANY Traverse Town encounter when you have thundaga:
-<br>Stock thundaga, wait for everything to spawn, then use it. It is possible to save a second on each encounter by risking missing the thundaga and anticipating the last spawn. If an enemy is slated to spawn during the time when the cards are moving from the stocked position to the field, they will. The will not spawn while thundaga is in effect, however.<br/>
+<br>Stock thundaga, wait for everything to spawn, then use it. It is possible to save a second on each encounter by risking missing the thundaga and anticipating the last spawn. If an enemy is slated to spawn during the time when the cards are moving from the stocked position to the field, they will. They will not spawn while thundaga is in effect, however.<br/>
 This concludes the farming section. After a few runs, you'll have had enough practice with this that it will be automatic.

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 = Farming =
-Over the course of the run, you will need to acquire ~150 map cards from random encounters to progress through the game. Traverse town's enemy composition makes it the quickest place to farm by far. Most of the ~150 can be accounted for by an average distribution of cards from Traverse Town's encounters, with a few exceptions. Because you cannot find blue cards as map card drops in Traverse Town, the following cards need to be found in other worlds:
+Over the course of the run, you will need to acquire ~150 map cards from random encounters to progress through the game. Traverse town's enemy composition makes it the quickest place to farm by far. Most of the ~150 can be accounted for by an average distribution of cards from Traverse Town's encounters, with a few exceptions. Because you can't find blue cards as map card drops in Traverse Town, the following cards need to be found in other worlds:
 * 3 Calm Bounties (or other treasure providing cards) - You will need to learn sleights from treasure chests in Olympus Coliseum, Monstro, and Destiny Islands.
-* 2-3 Moogle Rooms (Route Dependent) - The first Moogle Room fills out the Raids Deck, the second fills out the Endgame Deck, and the optional third may be used to learn Thundaga after Larxene I
+* 1 Moogle Room - A single Moogle Room is used to get the magic cards you need to fill out the raids deck, create an entire physical attack deck of non Kingdom Key cards, and get the two extra thunders you need for card farming throughout the rest of the game.
-* 2-3 Other Blue Cards (Route Dependent) - Door requirements for 7F, 10F, and 11F. 7F and 10F are often skipped using the Hundered Acre Wood, but should neither of these be skipped, you will need to hold onto 3 spare blue cards
+* The =1 Blue - At the very last Key to Beginnings Door in the game, you will be asked to provide a =1 Blue,an =3 red, and a sum of 99 value of cards. The 1B is the rarest card in the entire game(approximately 1 in 50 to drop from any non TT encounter), and one of the largest random factors of the run.
-* The =1 Blue (The 1B) - At the very last Key to Beginnings Door in the game (often dubbed "The Gates of Hell"), you will be asked to provide a =1 Blue,an =3 red, and a sum of 99 value of cards. The 1B is the rarest card in the entire game, and one of the largest random factors. It should not be used in any situation other than opening the Gates of Hell.
+* 2 Other Blue Cards - Door requirements for 7F and 11F. 10F also requires a blue card but is skipped in all but the most extreme circumstances.
-−
-In short, the easiest way to get blue cards is by farming enemies in the first world set with various elemental raids. Barrel Spiders, found in Olympus Coliseum, Monstro, Agrabah, Neverland, Twilight Town, and Destiny Islands by breaking barrels, are by far the easiest to eliminate quickly and consistently. Should you be pressed for blue cards late in the game, Twilight Town has the highest probability of dropping them.
-−
-== The Risky Route ==
-Advantages:
-* Potentially Faster
-* Potential to find the 1B in the first 30 minutes
-Disadvantages:
+In short, the easiest way to get blue cards is by farming enemies in the first world set.
-* Often sketchy deck coming out of Traverse Town (You shouldn't leave without blizzards, and you often leave without proper enemy card support)
-* New reset point about 45 minutes into the game if the 1B isn't found (harder to finish a run)
-* Needs a third Moogle Room
 The current fastest time uses this route, and it should probably be used for serious record attempts. Here are the steps:
 * Farm ~30 map cards in Traverse Town (About 5 rooms of Teeming Darkness)
-* Farm Olympus until you get a Calm Bounty, defeat the bosses, and remain there. Farm Barrels for about 15 minutes and attempt to get the 1B (and the Moogle Room + Calm bounty you need for Monstro). If you don't find it, reset.
+* Farm Olympus until you get at least two Calm Bounties. You need one for Olympus, and one for Monstro to learn the raid sleights. Calm bounties are a 20% drop in the first world set.
-* A runner that gets past this point can breathe a sigh of relief and finish collecting the remaining required blue cards (shouldn't take long)
+* In the likely scenario where you didn't find every blue card you needed in Olympus, when you get to Wonderland attempt to use a Teeming Darkness in every room and farm it out. You should get the 1Blue about 50% of the time by the time you finish the last room, and get the other blue cards necessary even sooner than that. Moogle rooms are a 7% drop in the first world set. If you don't get all the blue cards by this point, the run is not likely to be competitive enough. If somehow it still is and you need a backup, try Twilight Town.
-* Make your way through the first world set without using any important cards. Should you find yourself at a shortage of cards, farm Wonderland's enounters using blizzard raid rather than taking the time to go back to Traverse Town
+* After defeating Larxene I, go back to the Moogle room in Agrabah, and get 2 thunders from it. Then head to Traverse Town and use Thundaga to obtain the cards you need for the rest of the game
-* After defeating Larxene I, go down to Wonderland, create a moogle room, and get 2 thunders from it. Then head to Traverse Town and use Thundaga to obtain the cards you need for the rest of the game
 == Tackling Traverse Town ==
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 * "Solider-N": One Soldier spawns, followed by two red nocturnes which flank it. Based on your position (and rarely based on luck) the nocturnes can spawn on the opposite side of the field as a the soldier. The the soldier spawns on the left side of the field, you will often get this encounter. This is the only encounter where you often kill nocturnes last.
 * "Soldier-S": Similar in every way to Soldier-N except that the nocturnes are replaced with shadows. If the soldier spawns on the right, you have a high chance of getting this encounter
-* "Soldier-R": The last encounter that starts with an initial spawn of one soldier, and has an equal chance of appearing with a soldier start on either side. A second soldier will spawn, followed by a later spawn of two blue rhapsodies.
+* "Soldier-R": The last encounter that starts with an initial spawn of one soldier. A second soldier will spawn on either side of the battlefield, followed by a later spawn of two blue rhapsodies.
 * "Mad Magic": Initial spawn of two nocturnes, followed by a spawn of 2 rhapsodies in one of two possible positions.
 * "The Sandwich": Initial spawn of two shadows sandwiching you as the name suggests, followed by a soldier on either side of you, followed by a second soldier which spawns on either side of you.
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 * "Shadow-N": A nocturne spawns, followed by 2 shadows. These spawns are geometrically identical to Soldier-S
 * "Shadow-R": Two shadows spawn, one at the top of the screen, one at the bottom, followed by two rhapsodies spawning similarly.
-* "Bad": It is only possible to see this in meeting ground rooms, but there are at least 4 spawns and it contains every type of enemy. This is the number one reason to avoid farming in meeting ground rooms. Doing so is so easy, however, that I won't discuss strategies for beating this encounter.
+* "Bad": It is only possible to see this in meeting ground or sleeping darkness rooms, but there are at least 4 spawns and it contains every type of enemy. This is the number one reason to avoid farming in meeting ground rooms. Doing so is so easy, however, that I won't discuss strategies for beating this encounter.
-* "4 Shadows": This is another meeting ground exclusive. Its not so optimal either, so it's merely another reason to avoid farming there.
+* "4 Shadows": This is a meeting ground exclusive. Its not so optimal either, so it's merely another reason to avoid farming there.
 Most of your farming should be done in teeming darkness rooms for a number of reasons:
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 Dealing with Lucky, Soldier-N, Soldier-S, and Shadow-N:
-<br>You only need blizzara to deal with these. Move slightly down and 1 step toward the initial spawn, stock a blizzara, and wait for the second spawn. If it is one of these, fire off the blizzara and kill everything in one stroke. In the case of lucky, you don't have to move or wait, just stock the blizzara and shoot. <br/>
+<br>You only need blizzara to deal with these. Stock the blizzara and fire it just as the second wave spawns. Be careful in Teeming darkness though, because if the second spawn is a soldier... <br/>
 Dealing with Soldier-R:
-<br>This is why you wait in the previous case. If a second soldier appears after the first try and group them together. if they are already grouped, (50%) fire a blizzara and kill them both. Otherwise, hold you position, and one of the soldiers will try to attack you. Walk upward out of the way, and that soldier will overshoot, flinging himself right next to the other one (most of the time). Then fire the blizzara. Your goal is to kill them before the rhapsodies spawn. Once they do, combo them.<br/>
+<br>If a second soldier appears after the first, it will either spawn where the first one did or on the other side of the arena. In the second case, try and group them together by stepping up slightly. This should bait the new soldier into using a long range spin attack. Dodge roll away from it, and because you stepped up you should put the two soldiers just on top of each other, setting up for a clear with blizzara. Blzzaga make soldier position less finicky, which is good because either soldier has a small chance not to behave. However you clear the soldiers, combo the rhapsodies last.<br/>
 Dealing with the Sandwich:
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 Dealing with Shadow-R:
-* With Blizzaga: Take a step or two back and fire a blizzaga at the center. It will hit both of them simultaneously. Combo the rhapsodies.
+* Take a step or two back and fire a blizzara at the center. It will hit both of them simultaneously. Combo the rhapsodies.
-* Without Blizzaga: Use a blizzard on the bottom shadow, then move up and use one on the top and combo the rhapsodies. Alternatively, you can bet on the rhapsody spawn; there is a 50% chance that the rhapsodies will spawn such that one is in the same place as the top shadow. if you wait for the spawn and this is the case you can take the top shadow and rhapsody with the same combo and save a small amount of time.
 Dealing with ANY Traverse Town encounter when you have thundaga:

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	In short, the easiest way to get blue cards is by farming enemies in the first world set with various elemental raids. Barrel Spiders, found in Olympus Coliseum, Monstro, Agrabah, Neverland, Twilight Town, and Destiny Islands by breaking barrels, are by far the easiest to eliminate quickly and consistently. Should you be pressed for blue cards late in the game, Twilight Town has the highest probability of dropping them.		In short, the easiest way to get blue cards is by farming enemies in the first world set with various elemental raids. Barrel Spiders, found in Olympus Coliseum, Monstro, Agrabah, Neverland, Twilight Town, and Destiny Islands by breaking barrels, are by far the easiest to eliminate quickly and consistently. Should you be pressed for blue cards late in the game, Twilight Town has the highest probability of dropping them.
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−	~~== The Consistent Route ==~~
−	~~Advantages:~~
−	* Recommended for Beginners
−	* Will often produce a decent deck for fighting future bosses
−	* Produces a larger ball of map cards in the beginning of the game, which allows for easier decision making in the first few worlds
−
−	The single convincing disadvantage is this route's inability to get the 1B early on, which means a run can have wasted time fishing for it, or crash late game when one isn't found. The current SDA run uses the consistent route. Here are the steps:
−	* Farm Traverse Town until you have ~80 map cards (Stop when you've cleared out the room in which you've gained your 80th card)
−	* Farm Olypmus Coliseum until you get a Calm Bounty, then farm Olympus or Monstro until you get a 2nd Calm Bounty and a Moogle Room
−	* Continue to farm barrel spiders in Monstro and Agrabah to hopefully get the rest of the blue cards you need.
−	* If at any point you have the required blue cards and you need to farm, go back to Traverse Town to get more cards
−	* If you find yourself strapped for blue cards, continue farming in Neverland and eventually Twilight Town until you have what you need.

	== The Risky Route ==		== The Risky Route ==

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 = Introduction =
-IMPORTANT NOTE: Due to recent discoveries and route changes, this page is slightly outdated. An update will be completed shortly.
+Running Sora's Story requires a fair bit of improvisation, micromanagment, and good judgement. By running the game often and practicing, you will get a sense for what kind of map card spreads and decks you can expect to get, but no two runs of this category will ever be identical in these respects. The purpose of this guide is to outline general and specific strategies for gaining control of the random aspects of this game. For a number of reasons, explained below, the route we will use is:
-−
-Running Sora's Story requires a fair bit of improvisation, micromanagment, and good judgement. By running the game often and practicing, you can get a helpful sense for what kind of map card spreads and decks you can expect to get, but no two runs of this category will ever be identical in these respects. It is the purpose of this guide to outline general and specific strategies for gaining control of the random aspects of this game. For a number of reasons, explained below, the route we will use is:
 * Traverse Town (TT)
 * Olympus Coliseum (OC)
 * Monstro (MO)
 * Agrabah (AG)
-* Halloween Town (HT)
+* Hollow Bastion (HB)
-* Wonderland (WL)
 * Atlantica (AT)
 * Neverland (NL)
-* Hollow Bastion (HB)
+* Hundered Acre Wood (:P)
 * Twilight Town (TwT)
 * Destiny Islands (DI)
 * Castle Oblivion (CO)
-The plot door requirements are below. It is essential that you either memorize this list or keep it on hand, as wasting a key map card is an easy way to throw away a run.
+The plot door requirements are below. It is essential that you either memorize this list or keep it on hand, as wasting a key map card is an easy way to throw away a run. If for some reason you change the world order mid run, note that the map layout and door requirements are dependent on the floor you are on, rather than the world you chose for that floor. Finally, to address a common misconception, the cutscenes in this game are skippable, just hold down the start button for a couple seconds.
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 | 10F || B; 3- || G; 7+ || R; 0
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-| TwT || 5+; 5-; B || ||
+| TWT || 5+; 5-; B || ||
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 | DI || 2; 8 || 50 ||

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 = Introduction =
 Running Sora's Story requires a fair bit of improvisation, micromanagment, and good judgement. By running the game often and practicing, you can get a helpful sense for what kind of map card spreads and decks you can expect to get, but no two runs of this category will ever be identical in these respects. It is the purpose of this guide to outline general and specific strategies for gaining control of the random aspects of this game. For a number of reasons, explained below, the route we will use is:
 * Traverse Town (TT)
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 | TT || 1+ || 3+ || G
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-| OC || G || 15 || R
+| 2F || G || 15 || R
 |-
-| MO || 5+; 7+ || G || 3-
+| 3F || 5+; 7+ || G || 3-
 |-
-| AG || 8+ || 1+ || R; G
+| 4F || 8+ || 1+ || R; G
 |-
-| HT || 20 || R; 5- || 0
+| 5F || 20 || R; 5- || 0
 |-
-| WL || 3; 4 || 6; 7 || R 3-; G 30
+| 6F || 3; 4 || 6; 7 || R 3-; G 30
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 | 7F  || R || G || B

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	'''Attack Cards:'''		'''Attack Cards:'''
−	In the optimal situation, a physical based attack deck can often be as fast of faster than a magic/raids based deck. The problem is that in a single segment run, acquiring even 1/10th of the necessary high valued attack cards of favorable varieties is a chore not worth the time. If for some reason you find yourself with a spread of ~6 Lady Luck Keyblades and ~3 Three Wishes, all at high values (7+), consider being more daring with Overdrive, Berserk, Attack Haste, and Attack Bracer. You will save time on Marluxia I, and find yourself mostly able to do without the raids deck. You will need to use standard strategies for Hook, Maleficent, and most of the endgame bosses, but with a few well built combos, you can deal a lot of damage, especially if the second world set is generous as well.	+	In the optimal situation, a physical based attack deck can often be as fast or faster than a magic/raids based deck. The problem is that in a single segment run, acquiring even 1/10th of the necessary high valued attack cards of favorable varieties is a chore not worth the time. If for some reason you find yourself with a spread of ~6 Lady Luck Keyblades and ~3 Three Wishes, all at high values (7+), consider being more daring with Overdrive, Berserk, Attack Haste, and Attack Bracer. You will save time on Marluxia I, and find yourself mostly able to do without the raids deck. You will need to use standard strategies for Hook, Maleficent, and most of the endgame bosses, but with a few well built combos, you can deal a lot of damage, especially if the second world set is generous as well.