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81.134.152.69 at 15:14, 20 November 2012

2012-11-20T15:14:08Z

Smilge: /* Variant 4 - Overlapping party members */

2010-11-11T21:56:21Z

‎Variant 4 - Overlapping party members

Smilge: /* Variant 4 - Overlapping party members */

2010-11-11T21:55:44Z

‎Variant 4 - Overlapping party members

ExplodingCabbage at 18:24, 8 November 2010

2010-11-08T18:24:33Z

ExplodingCabbage at 21:28, 7 November 2010

2010-11-07T21:28:15Z

ExplodingCabbage: /* Talk Lock */

2010-11-07T21:14:20Z

‎Talk Lock

ExplodingCabbage: /* Polymorph-Teleport */

2010-11-07T21:12:26Z

‎Polymorph-Teleport

ExplodingCabbage: /* Use Any Item */

2010-11-07T13:17:40Z

‎Use Any Item

ExplodingCabbage: /* Unpause Menus */

2010-11-07T13:17:19Z

‎Unpause Menus

ExplodingCabbage: /* Scripted Teleport Breaking */

2010-11-07T13:14:41Z

‎Scripted Teleport Breaking

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	Note that there is a short delay after giving someone an order to use an area transition before you can use this glitch. Note also that if they decide to cancel the order because there is no explored path to the area transition (or the game's pathfinding isn't good enough to find them one), you will not be able to use the glitch. You can still use the glitch with area transitions which the game cannot find a path to, but your timing must be good.		Note that there is a short delay after giving someone an order to use an area transition before you can use this glitch. Note also that if they decide to cancel the order because there is no explored path to the area transition (or the game's pathfinding isn't good enough to find them one), you will not be able to use the glitch. You can still use the glitch with area transitions which the game cannot find a path to, but your timing must be good.
		+
		+	=External Links=
		+
		+	* [http://www.bit7.org/baldursgate2 Infinity Engine Walkthroughs - Baldurs Gate II]
		+	* [http://www.bit7.org/icewinddale Infinity Engine Walkthroughs - Icewind Dale]
		+	* [http://www.bit7.org/icewinddale2 Infinity Engine Walkthroughs - Icewind Dale II]

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 |}
-In BG2, the game sometimes allows party members to pass through each other while moving to prevent them getting stuck when trying to move through tight spaces. This happens when party members are trying to hold a formation. Telling the party to travel in one direction, then in the opposite direction will cause the party members in the front to have to overtake the other party members to try to stay in front. Occasionally some party members will overlap during this, causing someone to teleport to the nearest available space.
+In BG2, the game sometimes allows party members to pass through each other while moving to prevent them getting stuck when trying to move through tight spaces. This happens when party members are trying to hold a formation. Telling the party to travel in one direction, then in the opposite direction, will cause the party members in the front to have to overtake the other party members to try to stay in front. Occasionally some party members will overlap during this, causing someone to teleport to the nearest available space.
 == Variant 5 - Teleporting ==

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-In BG2, the game sometimes allows party members to pass through each other while moving to prevent them getting stuck when trying to move through tight spaces. Precisely what the conditions are for this to happen is not known. Regardless, if you can stop the characters in this state then after a moment the engine will detect the collision and place one of the characters in the nearest empty space.
+In BG2, the game sometimes allows party members to pass through each other while moving to prevent them getting stuck when trying to move through tight spaces. This happens when party members are trying to hold a formation. Telling the party to travel in one direction, then in the opposite direction will cause the party members in the front to have to overtake the other party members to try to stay in front. Occasionally some party members will overlap during this, causing someone to teleport to the nearest available space.
 == Variant 5 - Teleporting ==

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	It's probably worth checking the hotkeys for spells in other games to see if any of them will bypass the checks, especially for spells similiar to those for which the glitch works in BG2. Also, perhaps there are party AI scripts in some IE games which feature casting commands which don't check for memorisation or global cooldown.		It's probably worth checking the hotkeys for spells in other games to see if any of them will bypass the checks, especially for spells similiar to those for which the glitch works in BG2. Also, perhaps there are party AI scripts in some IE games which feature casting commands which don't check for memorisation or global cooldown.
		+
		+	= Transition Warping =
		+	In Planescape: Torment, activate area transition triggers without moving to them first.
		+	{\| class="wikitable"
		+	\|-
		+	! BG1
		+	! BG2
		+	! IWD1
		+	! IWD2
		+	! P:T
		+	\|-
		+	\| style="background:red" \| N
		+	\| style="background:red" \| N
		+	\| ?
		+	\| ?
		+	\| style="background:green" \| Y
		+	\|}
		+	== Method ==
		+	When a character's current order is to use an area transition (or some other triggers - so far it seems that the glitch works for exactly those triggers which display the area transition icon when you hover over it, including portals that teleport you within the current area like the ones in Ravel's maze), various things that stop the character moving will cause the game to react as though they had reached the transition. The current list of known things which have this effect is: being encumbered, being forced into dialogue, and activating Stealth.
		+
		+	Note that there is a short delay after giving someone an order to use an area transition before you can use this glitch. Note also that if they decide to cancel the order because there is no explored path to the area transition (or the game's pathfinding isn't good enough to find them one), you will not be able to use the glitch. You can still use the glitch with area transitions which the game cannot find a path to, but your timing must be good.

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	== Speedrunning Uses ==		== Speedrunning Uses ==
	* Anywhere that a character needs to travel to a point quickly.		* Anywhere that a character needs to travel to a point quickly.
		+
		+	= Casting spells without memorising them, or without respecting the one-ability-per-round global cooldown =
		+	There is nothing hard-coded into the engine which requires a character to have a spell or spell-like ability memorised in order to cast it, or that requires spells or spell-like abilities to respect the 6-second cooldown between casting spells. Instead, some casting commands (including most of the ones you have access to when casting spells normally, but not including many of the ones used in the scripts of non-party creatures, and not including commands used to make characters, including protagonists, cast spells or spell-like abilities in cutscenes) have memorisation and cooldown checks built into them. If there is a casting command you can use which doesn't have a check, then you can use the associated spell or ability without memorising it or without waiting for the global cooldown.
		+
		+	{\| class="wikitable"
		+	\|-
		+	! BG1
		+	! BG2
		+	! IWD1
		+	! IWD2
		+	! P:T
		+	\|-
		+	\| ?
		+	\| style="background:green" \| Y
		+	\| ?
		+	\| ?
		+	\| ?
		+	\|}
		+
		+	== Baldur's Gate 2 ==
		+
		+	The hotkeys for the spells 'Contingency', 'Chain Contingency' and 'Nahal's Reckless Dweomer' will cast them without checking for memorisation or the global cooldown.
		+
		+	== Thoughts for similar exploits ==
		+
		+	It's probably worth checking the hotkeys for spells in other games to see if any of them will bypass the checks, especially for spells similiar to those for which the glitch works in BG2. Also, perhaps there are party AI scripts in some IE games which feature casting commands which don't check for memorisation or global cooldown.

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 | style="background:green" | Y
 | style="background:green" | Y
-| style="background:green" | Y
+| style="background:red" | N
 |}
 When an NPC has a blue circle (meaning they are neutral and not immediately hostile), pause, talk to them, then give a different command (like move to a different location) and unpause. The NPC will be waiting for your character to talk to them, and will not perform any action until one round goes by. You can repeat talking to them as many times as desired. This can be used to kill the most powerful enemies in the game with no resistance, as long as they are initially neutral (blue circle).
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 * Skipping the Severed Hand cutscene in Icewind Dale 1
 * Protecting the Dukes from the Arrows of Detonation in the Duchal Palace (current Baldur's Gate ToSC multi segment route)
 = Unpause Menus in Baldur's Gate 2 =

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 Placing the item into a container and removing it will also work, since containers are implemented as stores in the engine.
-= Polymorph-Teleport =
+= Character placement exploits =
-Force yourself through a wall by Polymorph-ing into a large creature.
+Various things will trigger the engine to decide a character cannot fit in his current location and place him in the nearest available empty space. You can use this to your advantage by making sure the nearest empty space is on the other side of a wall or locked door. Note that whenever the engine is looking for the 'nearest available empty space', it actually favours spaces above and to the left.
 {| class="wikitable"
 |-
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 | style="background:red" | N
 |}
-== Variant 1 ==
+Polymorph a character into a creature which takes more space than the character's natural form, like a Mustard Jelly. If the character doesn't fit in the current location (because it's surrounded by other creatures), then the game places you in the nearest available space that is large enough for the new form.
-Stand near a wall where you want to hop over. Then fill the surrounding space around you with NPCs (Party members, monsters, familiars, ...). Then polymorph into a creature which takes more space than the character's natural form, like a Mustard Jelly. If the character doesn't fit in the current location (because it's surrounded by other creatures), then the game checks the nearest possible location where it could place you. This nearest location can be behind a unpassable wall if everything else is populated with creatures.
-== Variant 2 ==
+Also, if you polymorph from one form to a smaller one, besides natural form, then the game will periodically make collision checks as if you were still in the larger form, and move you if the larger form wouldn't fit. The period between checks is dependent upon your current form, and seems to be a function of the length of the current form's animations.
-Rather than polymorphing, releasing a familiar will have a similar effect. The familiar is placed directly under the PC, and the PC is teleported to the nearest possible location.
 == Speedrunning Uses ==
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 * In Baldur's Gate to get in and out of Candlekeep [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC3w5YoarE0 Video]
 * In Baldur's Gate 2 to skip most of Spellhold
 * In Baldur's Gate 2 to skip parts of Irenicus' Dungeon
-−
 = Scripted Teleport Breaking =

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 | style="background:red" | N
 | style="background:green" | Y
-| ?
+| style="background:red" | N
 |}
 == Method ==
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 * Allows non-mages to cast spells from scrolls [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5sb2AOqocg Video]
 * Allows non-warrior to use Vhailor's Helm
 = Run Speed Enhancements =

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-= Unpause Menus =
+= Unpause Menus in Baldur's Gate 2 =
-Allow the game to remain running while in a menu.
+There are a couple of ways to keep BGII running unpaused in the background while you are in a menu.
-{| class="wikitable"
-|-
-! BG1
-! BG2
-! IWD1
-! IWD2
-! P:T
-|-
-| ?
-| style="background:green" | Y
-| ?
-| ?
-| ?
-|}
 Without Throne Of Bhaal installed, the only menu that can be unpaused is the inventory. To do this, just enter and exit a container in the inventory, and the game will unpause.
 With Throne Of Bhaal installed, every menu ''except'' the inventory can be unpaused. To do this, enter the map screen, and from there enter the menu you wish to enter unpaused.
-This bug can be used for levelling up, memorising spells or managing the inventory without losing any time in menus.
+This also works for the menus used for setting up Contingencies and Sequencers.
-−
 = Use Any Item =

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	== Variant 2 - Teleports triggered by something other than dialog ==		== Variant 2 - Teleports triggered by something other than dialog ==
		+
		+	{\| class="wikitable"
		+	\|-
		+	! BG1
		+	! BG2
		+	! IWD1
		+	! IWD2
		+	! P:T
		+	\|-
		+	\| ?
		+	\| style="background:green" \| Y
		+	\| ?
		+	\| ?
		+	\| style="background:green" \| Y
		+	\|}
		+

	With teleports that occur at the end of cutscenes or are triggered in some other way, it does not seem to be possible to break the teleport completely. However, with some such teleports, not everyone in the party is teleported simultaneously. If you pause immediately after the loading screen for the new area, the party will be split across the two areas. At this point, giving an order to anyone who has not been teleported will cancel the teleport.		With teleports that occur at the end of cutscenes or are triggered in some other way, it does not seem to be possible to break the teleport completely. However, with some such teleports, not everyone in the party is teleported simultaneously. If you pause immediately after the loading screen for the new area, the party will be split across the two areas. At this point, giving an order to anyone who has not been teleported will cancel the teleport.