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MURPHAGATOR!21: /* Basics */

2015-04-16T05:33:01Z

‎Basics

MURPHAGATOR!21: /* Deathblow Details */

2015-03-15T18:27:58Z

‎Deathblow Details

MURPHAGATOR!21: /* The Infinite */

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‎The Infinite

MURPHAGATOR!21: /* Button 3 */

2015-03-15T18:25:39Z

‎Button 3

MURPHAGATOR!21: /* Basics */

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‎Basics

MURPHAGATOR!21: /* Advanced */

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‎Advanced

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MURPHAGATOR!21: /* Controls */

2015-01-28T01:52:04Z

‎Controls

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‎Cody

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	= Basics =		= Basics =

−	Final Fight has 3 types of damage; Strikes, throws and ~~direct~~. Strikes will be reduced by a percentage based on the enemies defensive modifier. Throws will do full damage against high HP enemies, but against an enemy with less remaining HP than 2 times the throws damage, the throw will do half of its listed damage or half of the enemies' remaining HP, whichever is greater. ~~Direct~~ damage will always yield the same damage regardless of the situation.	+	Final Fight has 3 types of damage; Strikes, throws and exact. Strikes will be reduced by a percentage based on the enemies defensive modifier. Throws will do full damage against high HP enemies, but against an enemy with less remaining HP than 2 times the throws damage, the throw will do half of its listed damage or half of the enemies' remaining HP, whichever is greater. Exact damage will always yield the same damage regardless of the situation.

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 == Deathblow Details ==
-A common escape move in this style of brawler, which is refered to by many different names such as: Super joy, extra joy, mega crash, and I'm sure a whole host of others that I am not thinking of. Deathblows are a critical component to success in Final Fight since they are your only notable tool to escape bad situations. Deathblows are done by hitting both attack and jump at the same time, however the game accepts the input if you hold either button and press the other as well. Unlike later CapCom games, this move cannot be done out of a punch, you must either be in a neutral standing state or in hitstun to perform a deathblow. This makes it tricky to use in situations where you are going for a strike grab by are surrounded, you have to completely stop punching to get around this without first taking a hit.
+A common escape move in this style of brawler, which is refered to by many different names such as: Super joy, extra joy, mega crash, desperation attack, and I'm sure a whole host of others that I am not thinking of. Deathblows are a critical component to success in Final Fight since they are your only notable tool to escape bad situations. Deathblows are done by hitting both attack and jump at the same time, however the game accepts the input if you hold either button and press the other as well. Unlike later CapCom games, this move cannot be done out of a punch, you must either be in a neutral standing state or in hitstun to perform a deathblow. This makes it tricky to use in situations where you are going for a strike grab by are surrounded, you have to completely stop punching to get around this without first taking a hit.
 == Strike Grabs ==

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 == The Infinite ==
-One of the primary damage output skills in Final Fight is the shifting infinite. All 3 characters can change facing freely when initiating a new attack. By shifting your facing away from the enemy you are attacking for one of the strikes in the primary standing attack series, you can purposefully miss an attack. The game then assumes you should not be in the middle of an attack series, and returns you to the first attack in the series the next time you punch. By doing this in a specific way, you can keep enemies in hitstun forever. Because of the length of each attack, each character has a slightly unique infinite. Haggar must shift away for alternating attacks, so his infinite appears as (Punch, turn, punch [missed], turn)xN. Cody can do two strikes and miss the third (Punch, punch, turn, punch [missed], turn)xN. Guy can do this the same way as Cody, or can do three strikes before shifting. (Punch, Punch, Punch, turn, Punch [missed], turn).
+One of the primary damage output skills in Final Fight is the infinite. All 3 characters can change facing freely when initiating a new attack. By changing your facing away from the enemy you are attacking for one of the strikes in the primary standing attack series, you can purposefully miss an attack. The game then assumes you should not be in the middle of an attack series, and returns you to the first attack in the series the next time you punch. By doing this in a specific way, you can keep enemies in hitstun forever. Because of the length of each attack, each character has a slightly unique infinite. Haggar must face away for alternating attacks, so his infinite appears as (Punch, turn, punch [missed], turn)xN. Cody can do two strikes and miss the third (Punch, punch, turn, punch [missed], turn)xN. Guy can do this the same way as Cody, or can do three strikes before shifting. (Punch, Punch, Punch, turn, Punch [missed], turn).
 == Hitstop ==

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	== Button 3 ==		== Button 3 ==

−	A short note on button 3. Anyone who has played Final Fight in mame may have taken notice that button 3 can be bound, and appears to do nothing. This seems to be a leftover development button, and it still has one function. Specifically, pressing button 3 when being grabbed (primarily by Andores or Abigail), will result in your character falling out of the grab. No official documentation contains any references to button 3, it is not an available button on any official cabinet, and it is not included in any port of the game, so use of button 3 is regarded as a cheat by SDA standards.	+	A short note on button 3. Anyone who has played Final Fight in mame may have taken notice that button 3 can be bound, and appears to do nothing. This seems to be a leftover development button, and it still has one function. Specifically, pressing button 3 when being grabbed (primarily by Andores or Abigail), will result in your character falling out of the grab. No official documentation contains any references to button 3, it is not an available button on any official cabinet, does not show up in the input check, and it is not included in any port of the game, so use of button 3 is regarded as a cheat by SDA standards.

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 = Basics =
-Final Fight has 3 types of damage; Strikes, throws and direct. Strikes will be reduced by a percentage based on the enemies defensive modifier. Throws will do full damage against high HP enemies, but against an enemy with less remaining HP than 2 times the throws damage, the throw will do of half of its listed damage or half of the enemies' remaining HP, whichever is greater. Direct damage will always yield the same damage regardless of the situation.
+Final Fight has 3 types of damage; Strikes, throws and direct. Strikes will be reduced by a percentage based on the enemies defensive modifier. Throws will do full damage against high HP enemies, but against an enemy with less remaining HP than 2 times the throws damage, the throw will do half of its listed damage or half of the enemies' remaining HP, whichever is greater. Direct damage will always yield the same damage regardless of the situation.
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 | Knife || 30 || Exact || Throwing knife, mostly notable because El Gado's will leave a ton on the ground. Knocks down.
 |}
 = Advanced =

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	There are a few solutions to ensure hitstop does not result in being countered. The first is to ensure that every enemy struck is hit on the same frame, which is what generally happens. In groups of like enemies, it is easy to guarantee this situation by knocking the enemies down with something like a jump kick, then punching them as they rise. Against groups of unlike enemies, more improvisation is needed, and avoiding basic standing strikes may be necessary.		There are a few solutions to ensure hitstop does not result in being countered. The first is to ensure that every enemy struck is hit on the same frame, which is what generally happens. In groups of like enemies, it is easy to guarantee this situation by knocking the enemies down with something like a jump kick, then punching them as they rise. Against groups of unlike enemies, more improvisation is needed, and avoiding basic standing strikes may be necessary.
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		+	== Button 3 ==
		+
		+	A short note on button 3. Anyone who has played Final Fight in mame may have taken notice that button 3 can be bound, and appears to do nothing. This seems to be a leftover development button, and it still has one function. Specifically, pressing button 3 when being grabbed (primarily by Andores or Abigail), will result in your character falling out of the grab. No official documentation contains any references to button 3, it is not an available button on any official cabinet, and it is not included in any port of the game, so use of button 3 is regarded as a cheat by SDA standards.

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 = Basics =
-Final Fight has 3 types of damage; Strikes, throws and direct. Strikes will be reduced by a percentage based on the enemies defensive modifier. Throws will do full damage against high HP, but against an enemy with less HP than 2 times the throw damage, it will do the greater of half of its damage or half of the enemies' remaining HP. Direct damage will always yield the same damage regardless of the situation.
+Final Fight has 3 types of damage; Strikes, throws and direct. Strikes will be reduced by a percentage based on the enemies defensive modifier. Throws will do full damage against high HP enemies, but against an enemy with less remaining HP than 2 times the throws damage, the throw will do of half of its listed damage or half of the enemies' remaining HP, whichever is greater. Direct damage will always yield the same damage regardless of the situation.
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 | 4 || 16 || Strike || Uppercut, knocks down.
 |-
-| Superjoy || 20 || Strike || Invincible jumping spinkick that knocks everyone near you down. Drains some HP to use if it hits anything.
+| Deathblow || 20 || Strike || Invincible jumping spinkick that knocks everyone near you down. Drains some HP to use if it hits anything.
 |-
 | Vertical Jumpkick || 12 || Strike || Defensive kick. Knocks down. Deceptively good hitbox, but generally useless.
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 | 3 || 18 || Strike || Overhead cop. Knocks down.
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-| Superjoy || 20 || Strike || Invincible jumping spinkick that knocks down. Drains some HP to use.
+| Deathblow || 20 || Strike || Invincible jumping spinkick that knocks down. Drains some HP to use.
 |-
 | Vertical Jumpkick || 20 || Strike || Defensive kick. Knocks down. Deceptively good hitbox, but generally useless.
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 | 2 || 6 || Strike || A second jab, same as the first jab
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-| 3 || 8 || Strike || Elbow, slightly better damage than a jab.
+| 3 || 8 || Strike || Gut punch, slightly better damage than a jab.
 |-
-| 4 || 8 || Strike || Elbow, can chain into throw by holding up or down while attacking again.
+| 4 || 8 || Strike || A high elbow, can chain into throw by holding up or down while attacking again.
 |-
 | 5 || 14 || Strike || Roundhouse kick. Knocks down.
 |-
-| Superjoy || 20 || Strike || Invincible jumping spinkick that knocks everyone near you down. Drains some HP to use if it hits anything.
+| Deathblow || 20 || Strike || Invincible jumping spinkick that knocks everyone near you down. Drains some HP to use if it hits anything.
 |-
 | Vertical Jumpkick || 12 || Strike || Defensive kick. Knocks down. Deceptively good hitbox, but generally useless.
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 | Knife || 30 || Exact || Throwing knife, mostly notable because El Gado's will leave a ton on the ground. Knocks down.
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−	= ~~Controls~~ =	+	= Basics =

	Final Fight has 3 types of damage; Strikes, throws and direct. Strikes will be reduced by a percentage based on the enemies defensive modifier. Throws will do full damage against high HP, but against an enemy with less HP than 2 times the throw damage, it will do the greater of half of its damage or half of the enemies' remaining HP. Direct damage will always yield the same damage regardless of the situation.		Final Fight has 3 types of damage; Strikes, throws and direct. Strikes will be reduced by a percentage based on the enemies defensive modifier. Throws will do full damage against high HP, but against an enemy with less HP than 2 times the throw damage, it will do the greater of half of its damage or half of the enemies' remaining HP. Direct damage will always yield the same damage regardless of the situation.

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 [[File:Cody ff1select.gif]]
-Button 1 - Punches! Press repeatedly for a series of up to 4 hits. The 3rd hit can be canceled into a shoulder toss if you hold up or down while mashing. Picks up items near you if they are there.
+{| class="wikitable"
+|-
-Button 2 - Jumps! You can press a direction to jump that way. Jumping backwards is the fastest way to move around, but you have to press back just after pressing jump or you will just get a forward jump in the direction you are facing.
+! Move !! Base Damage !! Damage Type !! Description
+|-
-+2 - Superjoy; mostly invulnerable spinkick that hits all around you. Takes some life to use if it hits anything, and can't be used if you have no health.
+| Punch || 10 || Strike || A straight jab, your bread and butter for damage.
+|-
-, then 1 - Jump kick. Knocks enemies down. Nothing special.
+| 2 || 10 || Strike || A second jab, same as the first jab
+|-
-Forward+2, then 1 - Jump kick. Knocks enemies down. Since you move forward while knocking enemies down, its great for pushing large groups of enemies together safely. Can be canceled into the down+1, which can be useful against enemies who block or if you jump kick too early.
+| 3 || 10 || Strike || Gut punch, Cody leans into this one. Can hit behind Cody, and can chain into a shoulder toss by holding up or down and hitting punch again after.
+|-
-, then down+1 - Down jumping attack. Works out of any jump direction. Leaves enemies standing which is great for leading to a grab for bash damage or tossing to group enemies. Can be canceled into the neutral jump or forward jump kick as appropriate, which can be useful to add damage to the jumping attack or to pin an enemy who blocks or to keep you safe if you do this too early in the jump.
+| 4 || 16 || Strike || Uppercut, knocks down.
+|-
-Move into standing enemies - Grabs the enemy, leads to other stuff.
+| Superjoy || 20 || Strike || Invincible jumping spinkick that knocks down. Drains some HP to use.
+|-
-Grab enemy, 1 - Knee bash attack. Repeat up to 3 times, or change to toss after 1 or 2 bashes.
+| Vertical Jumpkick || 12 || Strike || Defensive kick. Deceptively good hitbox, but generally useless.
+|-
-Grab enemy, left/right+1 - Toss. Great for grouping.
+| Forward Jumpkick || 14 || Strike || Straight kick; knocks down and is great for grouping staggered enemies.
+|-
-Weapons:
+| Knee Drop || 6 || Strike || Great way to move into an enemy and toss them since it leaves them standing.
+|-
-Pipe/Katana - Swing them with button 1. Not great weapons for Cody since the swing is a bit slow and they knock down every hit. Both work the same but Katana does more damage.
+| Kneebash || 9 || Exact || Press attack when grabbing.
+|-
-Knife - Stab or throw with button 1, range dependent. Spectacular weapon for Cody, the knife swing is lightning fast, has good range and does great damage. You can tell if you are in range to stab instead of toss because the Knife will flash red in Cody's hand. Knocks enemies down.
+| 2 || 16 || Exact || repeat above
 == Haggar ==