Earthbound/Glitchless route - Revision history

!5f!5fsdfg: Replaced Carpainter Lifeup glitch video with a link to a video that exists

2015-09-17T22:59:10Z

Replaced Carpainter Lifeup glitch video with a link to a video that exists

!5f!5fsdfg: Replaced run table with link to speedrun.com leaderboards. Noted that Diamond Dog is an easy fight.

2015-03-22T22:32:06Z

Replaced run table with link to speedrun.com leaderboards. Noted that Diamond Dog is an easy fight.

Nemi at 07:50, 16 December 2014

2014-12-16T07:50:48Z

!5f!5fsdfg: /* Monkey Cave */ You need to talk to the monkey. >___>

2014-11-20T06:40:29Z

‎Monkey Cave: You need to talk to the monkey. >___>

!5f!5fsdfg: /* Route */ Added short video clips demonstrating some things that are kind of annoying to describe in words

2014-10-28T04:13:15Z

‎Route: Added short video clips demonstrating some things that are kind of annoying to describe in words

!5f!5fsdfg: /* Route */ Fixed some mid-game stuff.

2014-10-26T22:20:49Z

‎Route: Fixed some mid-game stuff.

!5f!5fsdfg: /* Route */ Added note about updating the page, since people are using it to learn the game

2014-10-13T06:54:14Z

‎Route: Added note about updating the page, since people are using it to learn the game

!5f!5fsdfg: Fixed some errors; added note about using Lifenoodles on Paula during Giygas fight

2014-10-13T06:47:48Z

Fixed some errors; added note about using Lifenoodles on Paula during Giygas fight

!5f!5fsdfg: /* Pencil Eraser */ Fixed weird brain fart on ATM withdrawal.

2014-10-13T05:55:14Z

‎Pencil Eraser: Fixed weird brain fart on ATM withdrawal.

!5f!5fsdfg: /* Summers */ Clarification about buying sandwiches in Summers

2014-10-13T05:35:32Z

‎Summers: Clarification about buying sandwiches in Summers

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 #* If you're feeling less gutsy, wait until the third turn to use Rockin, since Carpainter will use Lifeup in the second turn and recover all the damage you would have dealt.
 #* Either way, bash once Carpainter puts up his psychic shield and you can't use Rockin anymore.  You'll likely want to save some PP so you can use Lifeup in case the fight drags on.  However, you should try to avoid healing if possible so you have low health before the deathwarp.
-#* Once Carpainter has put up his psychic shield, make sure that you do not use Lifeup the turn after he utilizes a paint attack (unless you have taken mortal damage).  If you use Lifeup then, a reflected Thunder attack can miss ([http://www.twitch.tv/uusdfg/c/2769851 video]).  Carpainter attacks once every three turns, so you can heal on the following turn.
+#* Once Carpainter has put up his psychic shield, make sure that you do not use Lifeup the turn after he utilizes a paint attack (unless you have taken mortal damage).  If you use Lifeup then, a reflected Thunder attack can miss ([https://youtu.be/PxSPrh3jyEs video]).  Carpainter attacks once every three turns, so you can heal on the following turn.
 # If you have a Hamburger or Crossaint left in Ness's inventory, eat or drop it.
 # Pick up the Skip sandwich from the left-hand present on the way out.

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 == Completed Runs ==
-{| {{wikitable|center=yes}}
+See [http://www.speedrun.com/Earthbound] for a (mostly) up-to-date leaderboard.
-! Runner !! Time !! Link !! Notes
-|-
-| __sdfg || 4:06:24 || http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQJImh-U6UE || Subtracted 1:08 to start timing on gaining control of Ness.
-|-
-| Andyperfect || 4:10:17 || http://www.twitch.tv/andyperfect/c/4446901 || Subtracted 1:08 to start timing on gaining control of Ness.
-|-
-| <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.twitch.tv/pop_em Pop_em]</span> || 4:45:xx || ||
-|-
-| 0xwas || 4:53:28 || http://www.twitch.tv/0xwas/c/1912459 ||
-|-
-| skateman222 || 4:56:36 || http://www.twitch.tv/skateman222/c/1872761 || Subtracted 1:57.
-|}
 == Route ==
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 # Climb up to the top.  You can have Poo use another Skip sandwich DX to try to get past enemies, either in the middle or at the top.
 # Before the fight with Diamond Dog, have Paula give the Rabbit's foot to Jeff and equip the Rabbit's foot on him (again, if Paula is dead, ''make sure you don't drop it'').  This is necessary to maximize the damage done by Jeff's rockets.
-# Fight Diamond dog.  There are a couple strategies:
+# Fight Diamond dog.  This is an easy fight (it may not actually be an easy fight).  There are a couple strategies:
 ## If you have 7+ rockets left, or if you have 6 rockets and Paula and/or Poo are dead or low on PP...
 ### On the first turn, have Ness use Lifeup &beta; on Jeff and have Jeff shoot a Multi bottle rocket while Poo and Paula defend.

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 ! Runner !! Time !! Link !! Notes
 |-
-| Andyperfect || 4:10:17 || http://www.twitch.tv/andyperfect/c/4446901 || Subtracted 1:08 to start timing on gaining control of Ness.
+| __sdfg || 4:06:24 || http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQJImh-U6UE || Subtracted 1:08 to start timing on gaining control of Ness.
 |-
-| __sdfg || 4:11:01 || https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC-5BJjv1eY || Subtracted 1:09.
+| Andyperfect || 4:10:17 || http://www.twitch.tv/andyperfect/c/4446901 || Subtracted 1:08 to start timing on gaining control of Ness.
 |-
 | <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.twitch.tv/pop_em Pop_em]</span> || 4:45:xx || ||

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 === Monkey Cave ===
 # If Ness was paralyzed, move the Pencil eraser into Jeff's inventory.
 # Walk down to the bus stop and take a bus into Dusty Dunes.
 # Go into the hole with the monkeys (dodge the mole on the way in).

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 == Route ==
-<big>Route updated October 26, 2014</big>
+<big>Route updated October 27, 2014</big>
 See page history or [https://forum.speeddemosarchive.com/post/earthbound_114.html#earthbound_114 forum thread] for details.
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 ### Buy the Baseball cap and equip it.
 # Walk down to the arcade.  Do not fight any Sharks that randomly spawn.
 # Fight the Pogo Punk NPC standing south of the arcade entrance.  If you are below 30 HP or so after the fight, heal with the Bread roll.
 #* This fight gets you a guaranteed Hamburger drop and sets up Ness to reach level 5 before Frankystein.
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 #* There is a photo shoot between the eastmost tent and the lake.  You can avoid it by either going around the north side of the tent or very carefully walking along the southern edge of the tent.
 #* You want Bubble Monkey to be close to Jeff when you reach the dirt patch.  Otherwise, Bubble Monkey will walk very slowly over to Jeff to get his piece of gum.  If Bubble Monkey is lagging behind, wiggle a bit to encourage him to catch up.
 # Enter the Brick Road dungeon.  Take the bottom path to fight the first Worthless Protoplasm.  Use the Boiled egg to heal if Jeff takes damage.  Try to bash the Protoplasm to death.  Run if it calls for help and you don't kill the first one soon after.
 #* This is one of the hardest fights in the game, no joke.
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 # If Jeff is low on health, pick up the Croissant from the gift box near the Mad Duck and eat it.
 # Try to skip the second Worthless Protoplasm, but don't worry too much if you don't.
-#* To set up the skip, walk along the top edge of the path, then, when the Protoplasm starts moving toward you, walk straight down so you're on the row below it and continue going to the left.  You will go past the Protoplasm if Bubble Monkey doesn't get caught.
+#* To set up the skip, walk along the top edge of the path, then, when the Protoplasm starts moving toward you, walk straight down so you're on the row below it and continue going to the left.  You will go past the Protoplasm if Bubble Monkey doesn't get caught ([http://youtu.be/WZQ7jimTv74 video]).
 # Ignore Brick Road and proceed into the cave.
 # Only get the Hamburger (from the gift box in the first room) if Jeff is critically low on HP and you're worried about getting into fights in the cave (eat it immediately if you do get it).
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 # Go into the Monotoli Building and take the two elevators up.
 # Go from the top elevator into the lobby.  Use a Skip sandwich just before entering the next room.
-# Hug the top wall and go into the right door as quickly as possible to dodge the first Sentry Robot.
+# Skip the Sentry Robots ([http://youtu.be/XiBv7I56tMk video]).
-# Run to the door on the left.
+## Hug the top wall and go into the right door as quickly as possible to dodge the first Sentry Robot.
-# Continue left and go into the next door.  If the second Sentry Robot is blocking it, try to go around it and run into the door on the far left.
+## Run to the door on the left.
-# Go under the desks to pin the third Sentry Robot against them, then wrap around the desks to the upper-left corner of the room.  Squeeze between the desk in the upper left and the wall and go through the door at the top.
+## Continue left and go into the next door.  If the second Sentry Robot is blocking it, try to go around it and run into the door on the far left.
-#* The advantage to using a Skip sandwich earlier rather than a Skip sandwich DX is that it's tough to get past this desk while your sandwich is active.
+## Go under the desks to pin the third Sentry Robot against them, then wrap around the desks to the upper-left corner of the room.  Squeeze between the desk in the upper left and the wall and go through the door at the top.
-# Go through the left door in the next room.
+##* The advantage to using a Skip sandwich earlier rather than a Skip sandwich DX is that it's tough to get past this desk while your sandwich is active.
-# Go up-left until you've reached the top wall, then go left a little and through the door at the top. This should get you around the last Sentry Robot.
+## Go through the left door in the next room.
-# Go through the left door again.
+## Go up-left until you've reached the top wall, then go left a little and through the door at the top. This should get you around the last Sentry Robot.
 # Fight Clumsy Robot.  Throw Super bombs until it dies.  Four Super bombs is usually enough, and five should do it unless you get freakishly bad luck.
 #* If you do get freakishly bad luck, about all you can do is Paralyze it and then Auto Fight until Ness Smaaashes it do death.
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 Throughout Deep Darkness, have Ness use Teleport &alpha; to run into stuff rather than trudging through the swamp.  It's faster and helps you avoid fights.
 # If Jeff still has a Super bomb, give it to Ness.
-# Talk to the Arms dealer.
+# Teleport over near the arms dealer ([http://youtu.be/HEm-X_LypM4 video]).
 ## Sell the Platinum band, Diamond band, and Talisman ribbon.
 ##* Usually, Ness will have the Platinum band and Diamond band, and Paula will have the Talisman ribbon.
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 # Go down through Winters, across Lake Tess.  Use the Pencil eraser to get rid of the statue on the way.
 # Go into the lab.  Use the revitalizer to refill your PP, then talk to the mouse to get the Eraser eraser.  It should go into Paula's stuff.
 # Go down into Stonehenge.
 # When you enter the first purple room, wait at the entrance for a few seconds.
-#* This often causes the enemy after the eraser statue to despawn itself, which saves a lot more than a few seconds.
+#* This often causes the enemy after the eraser statue to despawn itself, which saves a lot more than a few seconds ([http://youtu.be/PyCcPrO1Dks video]).
 # Just in front of the eraser statue:
 ## Move the Eraser eraser into Paula's inventory if Ness got it.
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 #* The run is a bit safer if Ness gets it here so he'll have it for Magicant.
 # Go all the way west, then go south to the entrance to Fire Spring.
-# Walk to the right and stop at the bottom of the rope.  Wait a few seconds here so the enemy that usually spawns to the right will hopefully despawn itself
+# Walk to the right and stop at the bottom of the rope.  Wait a few seconds here so the enemy that usually spawns to the right will hopefully despawn itself ([http://youtu.be/Qlm4fxk-BgQ video]).
 # Keep going to the right and enter the second door.  Go in and out of this door until either the passage is clear or the enemies are both running from you.  In the latter case, try to ambush them.
 # Go up the rope and into the door above.  See if you can either despawn the enemy or get it far enough away that you can escape up the rope (though it sometimes spawns on top of you).

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 == Route ==
-<big>Route updated October 12, 2014</big>
+<big>Route updated October 26, 2014</big>
 See page history or [https://forum.speeddemosarchive.com/post/earthbound_114.html#earthbound_114 forum thread] for details.
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 # Go down to the southeast end of Dalaam.  Walk behind the sign and then the Star Master to avoid having to talk to him. Go up the ropes and go through the Mu Training sequence.
 # Go back and talk to Poo's master to go back to Summers.
 # Head into the museum.  Pay the fee at the counter.
 # Go upstairs and agree to give away Poo's ruby.
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 ## Have Ness defend.  Paula and Poo should use Freeze &beta; and Jeff should fire a Big bottle rocket.  If that somehow doesn't end the fight, use Freeze some more.
 # Check the sign, then leave.  Unless you move really slowly, you should get out before fighting the other Shattered Man.
 # If you gave the Pencil eraser to Jeff earlier, move it into Paula's inventory now.
 # If anyone took significant damage, use Lifeup.
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 === Pyramid ===
-All enemies in the pyramid are vulnerable to Paralysis except for the Guardian Hieroglyphs and the Guardian General.  The Guardian Hieroglyphs and Lethal Asp Hieroglyphs can be hypnotized.  Take advantage of this to run from enemies.  If Ness is low on PP, Paula can use Freeze on Lethal Asp Hieroglyphs.  Also, remember that your party is completely healed at the exit.
+All enemies in the pyramid are vulnerable to Paralysis except for the Guardian Hieroglyphs and the Guardian General.  The Guardian Hieroglyphs and Lethal Asp Hieroglyphs can be hypnotized.  Take advantage of this to run from enemies.  If Ness is low on PP, Paula can use Freeze on Lethal Asp Hieroglyphs.  Also, remember that your party is completely healed just after you get out of the pyramid, so it might be okay to leave people dead if you're close to the exit.
 # Go down to the shopkeeper in a white turban on the west side of the market.  Buy a Crystal charm for Jeff and equip it on him.
 # Go left, being careful not to go up or down until you get past the pond, then go down and left to get out of town.
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 # Go back up.  Have Paula use another Skip sandwich as you near the top of the second stairs in the room that used to have Guardian General.  Try to dodge hieroglyphs on the way back to the middle room (it's tricky).
 # When you get into the room with the hole above the Hawk eye, if there are enemies in the room, fight the Guardian Hieroglyph on the wall just by the door you came in, then have Paula use a Skip sandwich DX and run into the hole to get by the enemies.  If there are no enemies, have her use a Skip sandwich DX and run around that Guardian Hieroglyph to get into the room.
 # Pick up the Hawk eye in the room below.
 # Dodge the hieroglyph in this room and at the top of the stairs in the next room.
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 ##* Usually, Ness will have the Platinum band and Diamond band, and Paula will have the Talisman ribbon.
 ## Sell any Big bottle rockets Jeff might have left.
-## Buy Ness 1 or 2 Super bombs, depending on whether he already has one.
+## Buy Ness 1 or 2 Super bombs, depending on whether he already has one.  Ideally, assuming you've already sold things, this will exactly fill Ness's inventory.
 ## Buy Jeff at least 11 Multi bottle rockets, ideally 13.
 ## Buy Paula 1 or 2 Super bombs, depending on how much cash you have.  Make sure you have at least $70 left over when done.

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	== Route ==		== Route ==
		+
		+	<big>Route updated October 12, 2014</big>
		+
		+	See page history or [https://forum.speeddemosarchive.com/post/earthbound_114.html#earthbound_114 forum thread] for details.

	=== General ===		=== General ===

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 # Leave the Moonside cafe.  Try to get past the Robo-Pump that spawns here.  If it fights you...
 #* The safe strategy is to have Jeff fire a Big bottle rocket and then have Ness use Rockin &beta; to finish it off.
-#* You can also try just running, especially if you used an extra rocket earlier or Ness is low on PP.  This can be faster than fighting, but if you can't run early, you'll get hit with a Bomb.
+#* You can also try just running, especially if you used an extra rocket earlier or Ness is low on PP.  This can be faster than fighting, but if you don't run in the first few turns, you'll get hit with a Bomb.
 # Outside, go southeast and talk to the nearest Warp Man to head down by the sailor guy.
 # Talk to the sailor guy, then go up to the northeast and talk to the Warp Man near the hospital steps.
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 # Go outside and watch Pokey fly away.  Walk back outside and get on the bus (note that you don't need to talk to anyone this time).
 # Walk up to the entrance to the prison.  The fastest route takes you past the hospital and circus tent, but watch out for the photo shoot near the tent (it helps to stay close to the fence until you're east of the tent).
 # Get on the Sky Runner.
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 ##* Buy enough to fill Ness's inventory.
 ##* Drop or move useless junk (e.g., Pencil eraser, Hieroglyph copy, etc.) from Ness's inventory if he doesn't have room for at least 2.
-## 6- Skip sandwich DXes for Paula.  She and Ness should have a total of 8.
+## 6- Skip sandwich DXes for Paula.  She and Ness should get a total of 8.
 ## 10 Skip sandwich DXes for Poo.
 # Go east a bit and talk to the sailor by the stairs.  Stay near the houses until you're above that sailor so you don't accidentally trigger a photo shoot.  Agree to cross the ocean.
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 # Head over to the pyramid.  Walk around the tiles to enter.
 # Position yourself south of the entrance to the pyramid, then have Ness use Teleport &alpha; directly into the door.  Hold up while everyone's fried.  You should step into the pyramid before the photographer triggers.
-#* This seems to work better if you start near the entrance rather down near the Sphinx.  You can get close enough to see all of Ness's head without accidentally triggering the photo shoot before you start teleporting.
+#* This seems to work better if you start near the entrance rather than down at the base of the Sphinx.  You can get close enough to see all of Ness's head without accidentally triggering the photo shoot before you start teleporting.
 # Go in and out of the door until the first room is clear.  Go up and down the stairs in the second room until the platform at the top is clear.
 # Just before going through the door at the top of the stairs, have Paula use a Skip sandwich DX.
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 # If Ness is below 30 PP or so, use Poo's Brain food lunch on him.
 # Go back up.  Have Paula use another Skip sandwich as you near the top of the second stairs in the room that used to have Guardian General.  Try to dodge hieroglyphs on the way back to the middle room (it's tricky).
-# When you get into the room with the Hawk eye, if there are enemies in the room, fight the Guardian Hieroglyph on the wall just by the door you came in, then have Paula use a Skip sandwich DX and run into the hole to get by the enemies.  If there are no enemies, have her use a Skip sandwich DX and run around that Guardian Hieroglyph to get into the room.
+# When you get into the room with the hole above the Hawk eye, if there are enemies in the room, fight the Guardian Hieroglyph on the wall just by the door you came in, then have Paula use a Skip sandwich DX and run into the hole to get by the enemies.  If there are no enemies, have her use a Skip sandwich DX and run around that Guardian Hieroglyph to get into the room.
 #* TODO:  Is it safe to use the sandwich after the fight, or should you use it in the previous room?
 # Pick up the Hawk eye in the room below.
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 # Go back into Dungeon Man (talk to him to enter).
 # This time, after entering, go to the left and withdraw as much as you can from the ATM (probably round to the nearest hundred).
-# Go back up to the top floor of the dungeon.  When you get there, skip talking to Dungeon Man's face and just take the Goodbye Hole (the one at the very end of the top floor, that used to have a sign blocking out).
+# Go back up to the top floor of the dungeon.  When you get there, skip talking to Dungeon Man's face and just take the Goodbye Hole (the one at the very end of the top floor, that used to have a sign blocking it).
 # When you land back on the first floor, go to the right a little and pick up the Talisman ribbon from the gift box.
 # When approaching the submarine, note that all of the enemies are Worthless Protoplasms and they should run from you as long as all three party members are alive.
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 # Equip the Night pendant on Ness, the Sea pendant on Paula, and the Rabbit's foot on Jeff.
 # Giygas phase 1:
-## Have Ness throw a Super bomb at Pokey, Paula use Psi Shield &Sigma;, Jeff shoot a Multi bottle rocket at Pokey, and Poo defend.
+## Have Ness throw a Super bomb at Pokey, Paula use Psi Shield &Sigma;, and Jeff shoot a Multi bottle rocket at Pokey.  If Poo still has a Cup of Lifenoodles, have him use it on Paula in case she dies (if she does, it's often before you can use Lifeup on her); otherwise, have Poo defend.
 ## On the next turn, Ness can heal someone, bash Pokey, throw another Super bomb, or continue with Paralysis if it didn't work the first time.  Paula can use her strongest Freeze or throw a Super bomb if she has one.  Jeff should fire another rocket.  If Poo has more than 93 PP, he can use Freeze &beta; on Pokey; otherwise, he should defend.
 ## If the fight continues, have Ness keep bashing, Paula keep freezing, and Jeff keep shooting (unless he's out of rockets).  Three rockets plus the other damage should be enough...

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 # Walk into the Twoson department store (go southeast from the entrance to Twoson) and withdraw $600 from the ATM.  Save using the payphone there.
 #* This sets up a deathwarp later.
-#* If you bought Hamburgers earlier, withdraw enough cash to get up to at least $338 (after using the phone).
+#* If you bought Hamburgers earlier, withdraw enough cash to get up to at least $559.
 # Walk down to Apple Kid's.  Feed him one of your burgers (or some other food item if you got one from enemies) and pay him $200.  Get the Receiver phone.
 # Walk into Peaceful Rest Valley.  Try to pick up a magic butterfly on the way.  Unless Ness is at full health, use Lifeup immediately after getting the butterfly.

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 # If anyone took significant damage, use Lifeup.
 # Go back over to the Toto shop.  Buy:
-## 2 Skip sandwich DXes for Ness.
+## 2+ Skip sandwich DXes for Ness.
-## 6 Skip sandwich DXes for Paula.
+##* Buy enough to fill Ness's inventory.
 ## 10 Skip sandwich DXes for Poo.
 # Go east a bit and talk to the sailor by the stairs.  Stay near the houses until you're above that sailor so you don't accidentally trigger a photo shoot.  Agree to cross the ocean.