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Ktwo: /* Tower 5 */

2024-05-18T20:34:41Z

‎Tower 5

Ktwo: /* Tower 5 */

2023-01-15T21:33:21Z

‎Tower 5

Ktwo: /* Tower 5 */

2023-01-15T21:31:38Z

‎Tower 5

Ktwo: /* Tower 8 */

2023-01-15T20:56:22Z

‎Tower 8

Ktwo: /* Tower 7 */

2023-01-15T20:48:49Z

‎Tower 7

Ktwo: /* Tower 5 */

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‎Tower 5

Ktwo: /* Tower 5 */

2023-01-15T20:45:03Z

‎Tower 5

Ktwo: /* Tower 4 */

2023-01-15T20:21:20Z

‎Tower 4

Ktwo: /* Tower 3 */

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‎Tower 3

Ktwo: /* Tower 1 */

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‎Tower 1

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 * Turning around at 0:17 (instead of immediately activating the elevator) gives the best pattern for the circling enemy above.
 * The alternative exit described above can also be used after destroying the two blinking pellets. You will no longer be hit by the enemy when exiting, but it's at best time neutral, since you'll still have to wait for the enemy to pass by, just like when taking the elevator. Emulator testing seems to indicate that more lag is generated by taking the alternative exit, compared to taking the elevator back up though.
 * It's not possible to jump down the pit to end the bonus level early. You have to walk into it.
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 From 0:43 and onwards, careful planning is required. Several possiblities exist and it's easy to turn them into unwinnable situations unless the right actions are performed. It's therefore important to take a closer look to understand the requirements for achieving the fastest solution, as well as what to do in the different situations. The discussion will be based around the following collage of screenshots:<br /><br />
-[[File:Castelian - 5 end manip new2.gif]]
+[[File:Castelian - 5 end manip new3.gif]]
 * The jump at 0:43 was to trigger the spawning of '2', ensuring it will not block the way later on.
 * '4' will spawn when '1' despawns. The timing of this will have a decisive impact on the rest of the level. There are three possible (/commonly encountered) cases. In all cases, '3' and '4' collide while waiting in 'A', but their continued movements differ between the three cases. Each case requires a specific set of actions and will be detailed below.<br /><br />

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 From 0:43 and onwards, careful planning is required. Several possiblities exist and it's easy to turn them into unwinnable situations unless the right actions are performed. It's therefore important to take a closer look to understand the requirements for achieving the fastest solution, as well as what to do in the different situations. The discussion will be based around the following collage of screenshots:<br /><br />
-[[File:Castelian - 5 end manip new.gif]]
+[[File:Castelian - 5 end manip new2.gif]]
 * The jump at 0:43 was to trigger the spawning of '2', ensuring it will not block the way later on.
 * '4' will spawn when '1' despawns. The timing of this will have a decisive impact on the rest of the level. There are three possible (/commonly encountered) cases. In all cases, '3' and '4' collide while waiting in 'A', but their continued movements differ between the three cases. Each case requires a specific set of actions and will be detailed below.<br /><br />

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 * From the point when the molecule appears for the first time in this level (at '5'), the next appearances will be set without possibility to manipulate the timing. For the third appearance (at 1:45), there is not a lot of time to turn around and shoot the pellet and then jump out of the molecule's way. The earlier the molecule spawned in '5', the less time there will be to the point where it's not going to be possible at all. This can be gauged by looking at the y-position when the molecule appears at '5'. The lower the y-position, the less time there will be later on. It can also be gauged when going through the tower right before the third molecule appearance. As a rule of thumb, if the screen has scrolled so that the blinking pellets have the tower behind them when the molecule's spawning sounds, there should be enough time. If it's not the case, it will lead to a 2 sec time loss because of the additional maneouvering required.
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 <u>B</u>
 * It's likely going to be tight jumping over '1' the first time, so it will be important to jump past '2' as early as possible.
 * If the lower blinking pellet is shot after jumping over '1' the first time, '1' will be in the way the next time and cause a time loss.
-* If the lower blinking pellet is not shot after jumping over '1' the first time (and this is the better option), a quick pause is needed at the lift with the two blinking pellets before activating it. 10-15 frames or so should do. The reason for this is to ensure that '5' (the molecule) is triggered during the lift ride past '6'.
+* If the lower blinking pellet is not shot after jumping over '1' the first time (and this is the better option), a quick pause is needed at the lift with the two blinking pellets before activating it. 10-15 frames or so should do (or, better, activate the lift shortly before '1' is near the bottom of its movement cycle). The reason for this is to ensure that '5' (the molecule) is triggered during the lift ride past '6'.
 * If it's not possible to jump over '1' the first time, then proceed shooting the lower pellet and then avoid the delay before activating the lift. It's still going to be a few tenths of second slower than the instructions described above though.
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 <u>C</u>
-* Same as 'B', but the first jump over '1' is going to be easier and the pause at the lift needs to be slightly longer (~0.5 secs). This is because the molecule timer will start counting down once '1' has disappeared, which happens slightly later in 'C' than in 'B'.
+* Same as 'B', but the first jump over '1' is going to be easier and the pause at the lift needs to be slightly longer (~0.5 secs or, better, activate the lift shortly before '1' is is near the bottom of its movement cycle).
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 <u>D</u>
 * The blinking pellet doesn't matter. It can be shot either the first or the second time.
-* A slightly longer wait at the lift with the two blinking pellets is required than in 'B' or 'C'. Around a second will be required.
+* A slightly longer wait at the lift with the two blinking pellets is required than in 'B' or 'C'. Around a second will be required. Like in case B and C, the length of the pause can be gauged by watching where '1' is in its cycle.
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 * Getting '1' to spawn at 'A' is difficult to manipulate. However, from RAM-address observation, it seems to be a little less than 50% chance of occuring, with a cycle of 20-25 frames.
 * For any of the four cases above, '6' can sometimes spawn slightly late and require a short wait before activating the lift for the last part. This is difficult to control in real-time since it depends on when '2', '3' and '4' despawn. Since their appearance in turn depended on the bouncing balls in the bottom screenshot, it's essentially going to be random for the purpose of real-time attempts.
 * For reference, the linked video above got '1' to spawn after jumping from position 'B'.

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 ==Tower 7==
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY7N57DXg44<br />
+https://vimeo.com/789492196<br />
 * Shooting the bouncing ball on the top of the tower is optional, but is overall a few frames faster by reducing lag.
 * It's not possible to jump down the pit to end the bonus level early. You have to walk into it.

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 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-DRtykZbhM<br />
 This is around four seconds slower than case 1. Since this case loses too much time for a serious speedrun attempt, it will not be described here in detail, even though it requires very specific actions for it to work. This case occurs when you're too slow through the lower section, resulting in '3' and '4' spawning closer to each other than in the cases above. '3' and '4' will still collide, but '3' will in this case not bounce back and will block your path after the lift at 'A' has been lowered.
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+<br /><br />
 ==Tower 6==

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 ==Tower 5==
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGuyTpS9_i4<br />
+https://vimeo.com/789492064<br />
 * Try to jump off the blinking pellet at 0:08. There is not much room to do so, but it will trigger the enemy above earlier if successful. The time save is free (at worst you'll just walk up to the next step), but also very minor though.
 * The door at around 0:14 can be re-entered by pressing down to get the door's [[Castelian_(NES)/Game_Mechanics#Alternative_door_exits_.28found_by_.27pirohiko.27.29|alternative exit]]. However, you will instantly be hit by an enemy when exiting on the other side, which means a huge time loss.
 * The pause before turning around at 0:17 was intentional to get the molecule timer to run for just a little longer. This is required for the end section (explained in more detail below).
 * Turning around at 0:17 (instead of immediately activating the elevator) gives the best pattern for the circling enemy above.
-* The alternative exit described above can also be used after destroying the two blinking pellets. You will no longer be hit by the enemy when exiting, but it's at best time neutral, since you'll still have to wait for the enemy to pass by, just like when taking the elevator. Emulator testing even seems to indicate that more lag is generated by taking the alternative exit, compared to taking the elevator back up.
+* The alternative exit described above can also be used after destroying the two blinking pellets. You will no longer be hit by the enemy when exiting, but it's at best time neutral, since you'll still have to wait for the enemy to pass by, just like when taking the elevator. Emulator testing seems to indicate that more lag is generated by taking the alternative exit, compared to taking the elevator back up though.
 * It's not possible to jump down the pit to end the bonus level early. You have to walk into it.
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 [[File:Castelian - 5 end manip new.gif]]
 * The jump at 0:43 was to trigger the spawning of '2', ensuring it will not block the way later on.
-* '4' will spawn when '1' despawns. The timing of this will have a decisive impact on the rest of the level. There are three possible cases (at least three commonly encountered cases, but the dependencies are fairly complex so it's possible that other cases also can occur). In all cases, '3' and '4' collide while waiting in 'A', but their continued movements differ between the three cases. Each case requires a specific set of actions and will be detailed below.<br />
+* '4' will spawn when '1' despawns. The timing of this will have a decisive impact on the rest of the level. There are three possible (/commonly encountered) cases. In all cases, '3' and '4' collide while waiting in 'A', but their continued movements differ between the three cases. Each case requires a specific set of actions and will be detailed below.<br /><br />
-Keep in mind that these instructions are not fool-proof. The enemy movements at the end of the level can still create more or less unwinnable situations.<br /><br />
 <u>Case 1</u><br />
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 * After the collision between '3' and '4', '3' bounces back, while '4' continues to rise. This happens when '4' is spawned early enough before '3'. The player can impact this by getting to 'A' as early as possible.
 * If '4' is disappearing off the top of the screen when approaching the lift next to it, you're in case 1.
-* '6' needs to be passed without stopping at 'B'.
+* '6' can be passed without stopping.
 * You have to wait for '7' at 'C'. When '7' is out of the way, it's full speed ahead.
-* If '7' and '8' collide, the solution will not work and it's going to be a time-consuming recovery (or even a virtually unwinnable situation).
+* Jump at the platform below '7' (to despawn an enemy below and start the molecule timer).
-* '9' (the molecule) must appear before the 5th step of the staircase. At that point '10' is ready to spawn. If '10' spawns at this point, it will knock you down immediately after taking the lift up to its level, so it's essential that '9' blocks '10' from spawning. The stop earlier at 0:17 was to ensure that the molecule would spawn in time.
+* '9' (the molecule) must appear before the 5th step of the staircase. At that point '10' is ready to spawn. If '10' spawns at this point, it will knock you down immediately after taking the lift up to its level, so it's essential that '9' blocks '10' from spawning. The stop earlier at 0:17 and jump below '7' were to ensure that the molecule would spawn in time.
-* On the upper level with '10'-'13', you need to rely on '11' not getting triggered too early. Else you're going to stand below '12' while shooting '11', leading to a risk of getting knocked down. The risk can be offset for a small time loss by jumping immediately after having shot '10', which will prevent '11' from triggering at least at that point. However, if it already began to move before you were able to jump, it's likely going to be a tight situation and sometimes even unwinnable (if '12' spawned too early).
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 <u>Case 2</u><br />
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k-AAxCEpmQ<br />
+https://vimeo.com/789492139<br />
-This is around one second slower than case 1.
+This is a little under a second slower than case 1.
 * After the collision between '3' and '4', '4' bounces back down ('3' still bounces back, same as in case 1). This happens when '4' is spawned slightly later than in case 1. This is the result of completing the lower part slightly slower than in case 1. The time difference is only a few frames, so there is little room for error.
 * If '4' is near the bottom of the screen when approaching the lift next to it, you're in case 2.
-* You need to wait at 'B' for '6' to move one cycle, even though it's sometimes possible to squeeze past without waiting. However, doing so will desync the enemy movements later on and lead to a next to unwinnable situation ('7' and '8' will collide).
+* Wait at 'B' until '6' hits the ceiling. Then rush to the right.
-* You should be able to pass '7' without having to wait at 'C' and just go full speed ahead towards the lift.
+* '9' (the molecule) must appear before the 7th (last) step of the staircase. At that point '10' is ready to spawn. If '10' spawns at this point, it will knock you down immediately after taking the lift up, so it's essential that '9' blocks '10' from spawning. The stop earlier at 0:17 was to ensure that the molecule would spawn in time.
-* '9' (the molecule) must appear before the 5th step of the staircase. At that point '10' is ready to spawn. If '10' spawns at this point, it will knock you down immediately after taking the lift up to its level, so it's essential that '9' blocks '10' from spawning. The stop earlier at 0:17 was to ensure that the molecule would spawn in time.
+* By waiting at 'B' earlier on, '7' will now block '12' from spawning too early and block progress.
-* On the upper level with '10'-'13', you need to rely on '11' not getting triggered too early. Else you're going to stand below '12' while shooting '11', leading to a risk of getting knocked down. The risk can be offset for a small time loss by jumping immediately after having shot '10', which will prevent '11' from triggering at least at that point. However, if it already began to move before you were able to jump, it's likely going to be a tight situation and sometimes even unwinnable (if '12' spawned too early).
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 <u>Case 3</u><br />
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-DRtykZbhM<br />

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 ==Tower 4==
-https://vimeo.com/770040617<br />
+https://vimeo.com/789492011<br />
 * The timing and time window for passing beneath the first molecule is tight. A well-timed jump (at 0:11) is needed to make the molecule spawn when you're at the top of the jump. The molecule always appears at the same time after the level begins, but since it can be difficult to have consistent movements, it's not always easy to gauge when to jump with the required precision. This trick is however important as failing it will cost several seconds both here and also set up the molecule in an unfavorable way later on.
-* It's a movement frame faster to jump to the door at 0:35 and 0:39. However, the jumps are pixel perfect and failing to execute them will lead to a time loss instead.
+* It's a movement frame faster to jump to the door at 0:35 and 0:39. However, the jumps are pixel-perfect and failing to execute them will lead to a time loss instead.
 * If the blinking pellet to the right is destroyed at 0:39, you can continue to the left at 0:45. However, that route is slightly slower.
-* By waiting in the spot at 1:02-1:05, the lag is slightly reduced by having fewer enemies on screen compared to waiting next to the lift. Turning as shown in the video is a good way to keep track of when it's time to move to the right. When the bird turns right for the fifth time, the lift is about to be lowered.
+* By waiting in the spot at 1:02-1:06, the lag is slightly reduced by having fewer enemies on screen compared to waiting next to the lift. Turning as shown in the video is a good way to keep track of when it's time to move to the right. When the bird turns right for the fifth time, move to the right and fire once before jumping the gap will provide the right timing.
 * Re-entering the door at around 1:12 was done by pressing down to get the door's [[Castelian_(NES)/Game_Mechanics#Alternative_door_exits_.28found_by_.27pirohiko.27.29|alternative exit]].
-* There is a risk that the bouncing ball at 1:19 will not start moving if you push on too fast. This can be mitigated by adding an intentional pause before shooting (see [[Castelian_(NES)/Game_Mechanics#Enemy_movements|enemy movements]] for more details). Postponing shooting until after the jump is both risky (if the ball starts moving towards you) and slower. Once the ball is destroyed, the molecule timer will start ticking down. The more it ticks down, the more time saved at the very end when waiting to get knocked down.
+* There is a risk that the bouncing ball at 1:19 will not start moving if you push on too fast. This can be mitigated by adding an intentional pause before shooting (see [[Castelian_(NES)/Game_Mechanics#Enemy_movements|enemy movements]] for more details). Postponing shooting until after the jump is both risky (if the ball starts moving towards you) and slower. Once the ball is destroyed, the molecule timer will start ticking down. The more it ticks down (= the more the ball moved towards you before being shot), the more time saved at the very end when waiting to get knocked down.
-* It can be worth including a brief pause around the 1:18 mark in the video. The molecule timer will tick down a bit more and make the molecule appear earlier at the top. By timing this correctly (= minimize waiting time for getting knocked down), more time can be saved than what was lost waiting.
+* A brief pause around the 1:18 mark in the video is generally needed to allow the molecule timer to tick down a bit more and make the molecule appear earlier at the top. By timing this correctly (= minimize waiting time for getting knocked down), more time can be saved than what was lost waiting.
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 ==Tower 3==
-https://vimeo.com/770040556<br />
+https://vimeo.com/789492257<br />
-* By shooting just out of range of the bouncing ball at the beginning, it's often possible to manipulate the ball to delay its start of movement. This allows you to enter the opening, which otherwise is not possible without shooting the enemy. By avoiding to destroy it, 6 frames of countdown are saved at the end of the level.
+* By jumping to the door, the bouncing ball at the first platform will not start to move (as opposed to shooting it). This both slightly reduces the countdown at the end of the level, as well as give a little more time to avoid the second molecule appearance.
 * Re-entering the door at around 0:09 was done by pressing down to get the door's [[Castelian_(NES)/Game_Mechanics#Alternative_door_exits_.28found_by_.27pirohiko.27.29|alternative exit]].
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 * Taking the elevator past the first molecule on Hero difficulty only works on the JP-version and is frame perfect (= 3 actual frames since the game runs at 20 fps).
 * Re-entering the door at around 0:27 was done by pressing down to get the door's [[Castelian_(NES)/Game_Mechanics#Alternative_door_exits_.28found_by_.27pirohiko.27.29|alternative exit]].
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