Amped 2/Mountains and challenges - Revision history

Ktwo: /* Scoring in Sponsor challenges */

2018-10-09T19:17:22Z

‎Scoring in Sponsor challenges

Ktwo: /* Videos unlocked by challenges */

2018-10-09T19:15:40Z

‎Videos unlocked by challenges

Ktwo at 17:56, 13 March 2016

2016-03-13T17:56:55Z

Ktwo: /* Mt. Buller */

2016-03-11T17:21:09Z

‎Mt. Buller

Ktwo: /* Mt. Buller */

2016-03-11T17:20:58Z

‎Mt. Buller

Ktwo: /* Laax 1 */

2016-03-11T17:14:32Z

‎Laax 1

Ktwo: /* Mt. Hood */

2016-03-11T17:13:05Z

‎Mt. Hood

Ktwo: /* Breckenridge */

2016-03-11T17:11:00Z

‎Breckenridge

Ktwo: /* Scoring in Sponsor challenges */

2016-03-11T14:16:30Z

‎Scoring in Sponsor challenges

Ktwo: /* Scoring in Sponsor challenges */

2016-03-11T14:04:43Z

‎Scoring in Sponsor challenges

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 ==Scoring in Sponsor challenges==
-The sponsor meter will increase the better you score. With a few exceptions (such as sponsors liking combos), it doesn't matter if the score comes from something the sponsor likes or not. The problem is more that scoring well with tricks outside the sponsor's interest will be difficult. The link between the score and the sponsor meter is illustrated below (the unit for the meter progression is not important, it was measured based on a screenshots on a computer screen). This test was made on New Zealand sponsor 1, because that's the sponsor challenge with the biggest possible meter progression in the game for a single trick and therefore the most practical to measure on. It hasn't been investigated if there are any sponsor challenges in the game that work differently, but the assumption is that they all work the same way.<br />
+The sponsor meter will increase the better you score. With a few exceptions (such as sponsors liking combos), it doesn't matter if the score comes from something the sponsor likes or not. The problem is more that scoring well with tricks outside the sponsor's interest will be difficult. The link between the score and the sponsor meter is illustrated below (the unit for the meter progression is not important, it was measured based on screenshots on a computer screen). This test was made on New Zealand sponsor 1, because that's the sponsor challenge with the biggest possible meter progression in the game for a single trick and therefore the most practical to measure on. It hasn't been investigated if there are any sponsor challenges in the game that work differently, but the assumption is that they all work the same way.<br />
 [[File:Sponsor_meter_rate.jpg]]<br /><br />

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 ==Videos unlocked by challenges==
-Certain challenges unlock videos. This adds some menu navigation, which adds roughly half second between challenges compared to "normal" challenges. In a segmented speedrun, you can avoid this by trying to end segments on these challenges (since the additional time appears after the save screen). The information is less useful in single segment runs, but could still be good to keep in mind.<br /><br />
+Certain challenges unlock videos. This adds some menu navigation, which adds roughly half a second between challenges compared to "normal" challenges. In a segmented speedrun, you can avoid this by trying to end segments on these challenges (since the additional time appears after the save screen). The information is less useful in single segment runs, but could still be good to keep in mind.<br /><br />
 There are three rules without exceptions:

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 * Colored lines (other than green) - Same-colored lines indicate non-combinable otm content.
-=Millicent 1=
+===Millicent 1===
 [[File:Millicent1_mapkb.jpg]]
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 Backward off-axis flips also count for the flip trick.
-=Breckenridge=
+===Breckenridge===
 [[File:Breck_mapkb.jpg]]
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 Forward off-axis flips also count for the flip trick. There should be no difference between "railslide" and "boardslide" (as it's referred to on Millicent 1). They both mean grinding on a grindable structure.
-=Bear Mtn. 1=
+===Bear Mtn. 1===
 [[File:Bear1_mapkb.jpg]]
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 The double front flip needs to be planned in the route since you need a fairly big jump to achieve two rotations when you first arrive at this level. It's also a surprisingly precise trick as it's easy to get off-axis.
-=Mt. Hood=
+===Mt. Hood===
 [[File:Hood_mapkb.jpg]]
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 These tricks require that you go a bit more out of the way. The 10.000 point 180 spin can of course be done as a stand-alone trick, but can also be achieved if a 180 is included in a grinding combo (possibly any combo?). The stomped landings requirements (there are more in later levels) can be hard to deal with. There are several different ways of getting stomped landings and it depends on several parameters (for example the general steepness of the slope and the board stats). A good way is to look for small bumps, where you can perform one flip rotation. It's possible to get stomped landings both with straight flips and normal spins, but with the score decay setting in, the game will quickly block that possibility. Off-axis rotations are a better choice since they aren't subject to score decay. It's also possible to get stomped landings from pure grabs or from multiple rotations, but the success rate just appears to be lower for them.
-=Laax 1=
+===Laax 1===
 [[File:Laax1_mapkb.jpg]]
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 You need to complete Pro 1 on Bear 1 to unlock the Method Grab technique. "Late" tricks are done by combining different types of rotations. So if you start with a flip (straight or off-axis) and then proceed with a spin, you'll get a "late spin". Same principle applies to "late flips". Grabs are unfortunately not triggering tricks to be "late". Unless you return to this mountain with a board boosted from the later mountains, the only realistic place to achieve a 1080 is around the cliff drop half-way down. The late 360 spin can also be hard to fit in and needs to be taken into account when upgrading the board stats before coming here.
-=Mt. Buller=
+===Mt. Buller===
 [[File:Buller_mapkb.jpg]]
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 Impossible is a snowskate only trick (X+down).
-=New Zealand=
+===New Zealand===
 [[File:NewZealand_mapkb.jpg]]
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 The triple back flip is problematic. Both because it requires a really high drop to allow for three rotations, but also because it's a very precise trick (easy to go a bit off-axis).
-=Millicent=
+===Millicent===
 [[File:Milli_mapkb.jpg]]
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 The double flip + late 180 requires both a big jump and some pretty boosted jump and/or spin stats for the board.
-=Bear Mtn.=
+===Bear Mtn.===
 [[File:Bear_mapkb.jpg]]
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 If you start a butter and immediately interrupt it by switching stance, you will receive the butter points plus 1000 points for the "180" (this is subject to score decay, so it only works at the very start), which will guarantee the achievement of the butter trick requirement.
-=Laax=
+===Laax===
 [[File:Laax_mapkb.jpg]]
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 All events are 100% predictable in terms of the opponents' scores.<br />
-=Event 1=
+===Event 1===
 [[File:Event_1.png]]<br />
-=Event 2=
+===Event 2===
 [[File:Event_2.png]]<br />
-=Event 3=
+===Event 3===
 [[File:Event_3.png]]<br />
-=Event 4=
+===Event 4===
 [[File:Event_4.png]]<br /><br />

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 =Mt. Buller=
+[[File:Buller_mapkb.jpg]]
 The "Mountain preview" is really terrible for this mountain, which makes it difficult to make a proper map. The information is all there though.

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 =Mt. Buller=
-[[File:Buller_mapkb.jpg]]
 The "Mountain preview" is really terrible for this mountain, which makes it difficult to make a proper map. The information is all there though.

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 * 30.000 points without crashing
-You need to complete Pro 1 on Bear 1 to unlock the Method Grab technique. "Late" tricks are done by combining different types of rotations. So if you start with a flip (straight or off-axis) and the proceed with a spin, you'll get a "late spin". Same principle applies to "late flips". Grabs are unfortunately not triggering tricks to be "late". Unless you return to this mountain with a board boosted from the later mountains, the only realistic place to achieve a 1080 is around the cliff drop half-way down. The late 360 spin can also be hard to fit in and needs to be taken into account when upgrading the board stats before coming here.
+You need to complete Pro 1 on Bear 1 to unlock the Method Grab technique. "Late" tricks are done by combining different types of rotations. So if you start with a flip (straight or off-axis) and then proceed with a spin, you'll get a "late spin". Same principle applies to "late flips". Grabs are unfortunately not triggering tricks to be "late". Unless you return to this mountain with a board boosted from the later mountains, the only realistic place to achieve a 1080 is around the cliff drop half-way down. The late 360 spin can also be hard to fit in and needs to be taken into account when upgrading the board stats before coming here.
 =Mt. Buller=

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 * Stomp 2 landings in a run
-These tricks require that you go a bit more out of the way. The 10.000 point 180 spin can of course be done as a standalong trick, but can also be achieved if a 180 is included in a grinding combo (possibly any combo?). The stomped landings requirements (there are more in later levels) can be hard to deal with. There are several different ways of getting stomped landings and it depends on several parameters (for example the general steepness of the slope and the board stats). A good way is to look for small bumps, where you can perform one flip rotation. It's possible to get stomped landings both with straight flips and normal spins, but with the score decay setting in, the game will quickly block that possibility. Off-axis rotations are a better choice since they aren't subject to score decay. It's also possible to get stomped landings from pure grabs or from multiple rotations, but the success rate just appear to be lower for them.
+These tricks require that you go a bit more out of the way. The 10.000 point 180 spin can of course be done as a stand-alone trick, but can also be achieved if a 180 is included in a grinding combo (possibly any combo?). The stomped landings requirements (there are more in later levels) can be hard to deal with. There are several different ways of getting stomped landings and it depends on several parameters (for example the general steepness of the slope and the board stats). A good way is to look for small bumps, where you can perform one flip rotation. It's possible to get stomped landings both with straight flips and normal spins, but with the score decay setting in, the game will quickly block that possibility. Off-axis rotations are a better choice since they aren't subject to score decay. It's also possible to get stomped landings from pure grabs or from multiple rotations, but the success rate just appears to be lower for them.
 =Laax 1=

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 There are plenty of opportunities throughout the level to do these tricks.<br />
-Forward off-axis flips also count for the flip trick. There should be no difference between "railslide" and "boardslide" (as it's referred to on Millicent 1. They both mean grinding on a grindable structure.
+Forward off-axis flips also count for the flip trick. There should be no difference between "railslide" and "boardslide" (as it's referred to on Millicent 1). They both mean grinding on a grindable structure.
 =Bear Mtn. 1=

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 [[File:Sponsor_meter_rate.jpg]]<br /><br />
-As can be seen, there is a cut-in score (different for every challenge, but in this case ~7.500), below which the sponsor will you give you the thumbs down and not reward you with any progression on the meter. There is also a cut-out score (different for every challenge, but in this case ~20.000), at which the meter progression maxes out for a single score. Between these two there is a linear dependence between the score and the meter progression. It also appears that extrapolating this linear dependence would hit origo. This indicates that doing many low-score tricks is equally rewarding as a few high-scoring tricks. In practice, it's of course almost always advantageous to score as much as possible from each trick opportunity, since each score trick occasion usually comes with a setup time.<br /><br />
+As can be seen, there is a cut-in score (different for every challenge, but in this case ~7.500), below which the sponsor will you give you the thumbs down and not reward you with any progression on the meter. There is also a cut-out score (different for every challenge, but in this case ~20.000), at which the meter progression maxes out for a single score. Between these two there is a linear dependence between the score and the meter progression. It also appears that extrapolating this linear dependence would hit origo. This indicates that doing many low-score tricks is equally rewarding as a few high-scoring tricks. In practice, it's of course almost always advantageous to score as much as possible from each trick opportunity, since each score trick occasion usually comes with a setup time. The non-linear score rate of most of the tricks also needs to be taken into account in order to find the optimal strategy for the individual sponsor challenge.<br /><br />
 ==Pro challenge times==