User talk:Najzere

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I'm confused, what is the purpose of the table? I'm not doubting you, I just don't see where you're trying to go with it. — unsigned comment from Mikwuyma 07:46, 13 August 2009

Don't get me wrong, none of these changes are super critical, but there are definitely some tweaks that would make editing and reading the wiki easier. If you look at this boss strategy, the SMG star times and all over the Infinity Engine page, you'll see that everyone's using a different style of table. Setting up a class for the tables would allow all the tables to look and feel the same. It's up to you how important uniformity is. Here's the difference in using the tables:

How we do it now:

{| [everyone adds their styles]

How it looks with a class:

{| class="wikitable"

Or, if you want to add some more functionality:

{| {{wikitable}}

One thing, stylistically, that may be a bigger issue is how similar the Level 2 and 3 headings look. They're basically the same with one being a slightly darker gray than the other. It's hard to tell, once you're down the page, just which section you're in. Anyway, all my suggestions come from editing and using multiple wikis and getting a feel for how they're done in general. I'll just let you know what's out there and then you can decide if you want it or not. :) — najzere ( talk ) 15:40, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, that makes perfect sense about the tables. They would look better if they all used the same formatting. Personally, I like the look of the table in the Super Mario Galaxy star times page, but if you think you have a better format, just show me.

Level 2 and 3 Headings - Actually, I'm finding that quite annoying myself. I would like it if one of them kept the bars and the other one used a different style of heading, but if you have a different idea, go ahead.

All right, we can make the tables look however you want. There are a couple issues however. Currently the wiki is not pulling in scripts and CSS from MediaWiki:Common.js and MediaWiki:Common.css, so the only way to change styles is by modifying this file, to which I don't have access. This is easily remedied by adding the pages to the scripts and styles path directories in the LocalSettings.php, unless there is a reason why you or nate don't want to use the wiki pages.

If I can request an extension, a very helpful one in the building of templates is ParserFunctions. They allow you to modify what the template returns based on what a user puts in the template call. Okay, I'll work on the table and headings in the sandbox and see if we can come up with something usable. — najzere ( talk ) 20:38, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

After talking with Manocheese, who has the stylesheets loading for him, I think this is probably the result of different browser versions. However the stylesheets are being imported doesn't seem to be supported in newer browsers. That's just a guess though, as I can't see your .php files. — najzere ( talk ) 20:07, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Contents 1 Redirect template 2 RE: Mortal Kombat II 3 Edit summaries 4 Wide image template 5 Wikitable style

Redirect template

I don't think it is neccessary to include the second parameter for the disambig link. If the naming convention is followed, all disambiguation pages should use that same structure. This is precisely what is used by wikipedia.org in their redirect template. /Moooh 20:25, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry, I saw it was transcluding preformatted text and didn't think that would work. I guess the parameters are evaluated before being transcluded. The second parameter was in case there's no disambiguation page, such as when there's only one other page for a lesser known game. Anyway, I find the whole thing kind of foreign, because I would rather just redirect "Jurassic Park" to the disambiguation page and avoid the redirect template all together. It's no big deal though. I should have just checked to see it working before changing it! :) — najzere ( talk ) 20:33, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

If another page with JP existed then we might link it directly to the disambiguation page. Doing it this way is mostly only in preparation for future pages. The redirect template can be extended with an if clause to check for a second parameter. If the second parameter is present, we could output a link to the lone other page. If it is not present, we could display the link to the disambiguation page. That way we'll cover both cases while still keeping the template link short for most of the cases. I'll look into how it can be done. /Moooh 20:43, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

That's a good idea but we don't currently have the extension which allows if statements to be used installed in the wiki (see above discussion). The if statement isn't actually necessary anyway:

 "{{{1}}}" redirects here. For other uses, see [[{{{2|{{{1}}} (disambiguation)}}}]].

— najzere ( talk ) 20:50, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

RE: Mortal Kombat II

Double Dragon II is for NES, you got it confused with MK II which is for SNES. I changed it back. --Sinister1 16:02, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Huh, my bad I don't know where I got MKII from. Thanks for looking out! — najzere ( talk ) 22:59, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Hey. You asked me to leave an edit summary when removing large amounts of content from a page. No problem, but how do I do that? I've looked and can't see the option on either the edit or the history page. — unsigned comment from ExplodingCabbage (talk)

Don't worry about changing existing edit summaries (it's very hard to do and not worth it), I was mainly talking about in the future so no one accidentally reverts your cleanup. Whenever you make an edit, you can put a little summary in the text box above the Save page button. If you want to, you can also check the "Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary" checkbox in the Editing tab of your preferences. Also, you can sign your talk page posts by using four tildes (~~~~). Thanks! — najzere ( talk ) 05:42, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Wide image template

Hi, I was thinking of adding this template to the SDA wiki, as it would be very useful for posting World maps for SMG2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Wide_image

For example, the World 1 map that I have is 3212 x 766 pixels. If it were put in without the wide-image template's scrollbar, it'd have to be shrunk to 1/4 width or less so that it doesn't cause annoyance in low-res screens.

However, there's a comment in this template's source code: "If you copy this template, you need to add the overflowx and overflowy CSS classes to your global CSS for Internet Explorer users. On the English Wikipedia, these are conditionally loaded by [[MediaWiki:Common.js]]." I'm not sure how to do what they're asking us to do here. Can you help? Yoshifan 04:42, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Sure. We don't actually need to add any special classes, it's pretty simple over here compared to Wikipedia. :) — najzere ( talk ) 06:14, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Wikitable style

I think we need to either change the styling of the wikitables, or make the no-sort image a different color. At the moment, the image is grey on grey and difficult to spot. On the Historical_Records table, the sorting function is pretty important and I know that several people completely missed that sorting even exists. Not sure if other pages using the wikitables all have the same styling or if there exists sub-classes or so to speak, so I don't know which would be the easiest approach without messing up any other tables :) Suggestions? /Moooh 08:31, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Unlike some of the other styles, the sorter is an image and it's added after page load by JavaScript (not in the source code), so it will take a little more than just adding a style into the CSS pages to fix it. I'll make some new ones and get dex or nate to upload them to the skins image directory then figure out the CSS, hopefully later today. Thanks for the heads up. — najzere ( talk ) 16:26, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Okay, nate has added darker images for the SDA Knowledge Base skin and the Cologne Blue skin. Enjoy! — najzere ( talk ) 12:23, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Great, looks so much better now! /Moooh 08:11, 16 October 2010 (UTC)